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FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually better, some competent people said, because the chance of contact with virus carrying bodily fluids is eliminated

Except people generally don't like needle sticks.

Trust me they like swabs less they are by far more uncomfortable than a prick.

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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post #47
post #24

> The sensitivity is 97.90 %, the specificity is 91.77%. This seems like it could provide a false sense of security to many if used widely by the general population.

And also this. >Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.

I feel like false positives are less damaging than false negatives at this point. Unnecessarily putting people into self quarantine is not the worst, as opposed to giving false security to potentially infectious people.

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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They also cleared the Pinnacle BioLabs assay. You can order a 2-pack or a 25-pack. https://www.pblabs.com/products/pinnacle-biolabs-covid-19-no... Mine arrived in the mail this morning.

Did you buy it for some sort of industry use, or as a regular consumer for personal testing?

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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This is an antibody test which will only be positive days after the onset of symptoms. This is principally useful for several purposes: 1. Figuring out who to isolate in hospitals if the RNA test isn't available in sufficient quantity 2. Understanding who has already recovered from COVID-19 and is thus immune with all that implies in terms of inability to spread the disease and reduced need for PPE 3. Enabling us to…

Hold on. Has it been confirmed that recovered people do in fact develop immunity?

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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post #37
post #24

> The sensitivity is 97.90 %, the specificity is 91.77%. This seems like it could provide a false sense of security to many if used widely by the general population.

It also means that, if that number is correct, 8.23% of not-yet-infected people will test positive. At a time when only 0.01% of people are infected, that means that 8.2301% of people will test positive, and of those people, on average one person† of every 82301 people will have the infection; the other 82300 are all false positives. They'll need to improve that for this to be useful, since at the time 1% of the popu…

Yeah, that's the Base Rate Fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy.

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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post #31
post #7

Keep in mind this is an antibody test, it only works >1 week after someone gets sick. It might help differentiate COVID from Flu if someone is sick, but it's not great for screening otherwise healthy people.

I'm curious what you're basing the 1 week off of? As far as I can tell the company isn't reporting any data about how long it takes, but they think that it is likely to be similar to SARS per their manuscript: https://coronachecktest.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Devel... > It was reported that after SARS infection, IgM antibody could be detected in patient blood after 3-6 days and IgG could be detected after 8 days…

> I'm curious what you're basing the 1 week off of?

There is a graph at the bottom of their homepage: https://coronachecktest.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/antib...

The first red dot is at the 7 day mark.

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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post #7

Keep in mind this is an antibody test, it only works >1 week after someone gets sick. It might help differentiate COVID from Flu if someone is sick, but it's not great for screening otherwise healthy people.

What if you're asymptomatic?

According to the logo on this graph, it only works 7 days after symptoms appear: https://coronachecktest.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/antib...

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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They also cleared the Pinnacle BioLabs assay. You can order a 2-pack or a 25-pack. https://www.pblabs.com/products/pinnacle-biolabs-covid-19-no... Mine arrived in the mail this morning.

Are there any reviews? Any third party verification? How do I know that this is legitimate? These are sincere questions, I'm not just being difficult.

Isn't FDA clearance the very definition of "third party verification"?

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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post #48

This is an antibody test which will only be positive days after the onset of symptoms. This is principally useful for several purposes: 1. Figuring out who to isolate in hospitals if the RNA test isn't available in sufficient quantity 2. Understanding who has already recovered from COVID-19 and is thus immune with all that implies in terms of inability to spread the disease and reduced need for PPE 3. Enabling us to…

Bear in mind in relation to immunity -- "Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E."

Those are the most common corona viruses strains that cause symptoms of the common cold (which itself is caused by something like ~200 known different viruses, the most prevelant being rhinoviruses). I was under the impression many people already had these antibodies

Re: FDA just cleared a $20 Covid-19 antibody test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is evidence that people can become re-infected, so antibodies aren't enough.

Citation? I saw the one story about people "testing positive again" but that seemed to be a testing abnormality, not people getting sick a second time.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-13/china-...
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