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Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by thelittleone »

snazz wrote: post #38
Niccizero wrote: post #27

I don't see the reason to buy a such a compromised machine over a X1 Carbon or a XPS 13. No ports, crappy soldered everything, worst company for consumer rights, etc. They have nice screens I guess? And you can't deny the brand appeal of the Apple logo.

For the kinds of people who wouldn’t be running Linux on the other laptops, maybe they just like macOS better than Windows? It’s not like Hackintoshing is trivial. It’s not necessarily a developer machine.

This is pretty much it. OSX is what locks me in to Apple. Ironic that it (OSX) is free.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by GhostVII »

pivo wrote: post #89
dean177 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8GB is absolutely fine for most people, but it is an expensive upgrade.

In my experience with family members who have 8G laptops, they are not fine. Even my mother who just uses a web browser, mail.app and occasinally Photos is not fine with 8G. Her MacBook Pro regularly ground to a halt. I replaced it with a used model that was almost exactly the same except that it has 16G and now she is fine.

I have a laptop with 8gb of RAM and have never had any problems browsing the internet or even playing intensive games.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by wtallis »

dangus wrote: post #101
pivo wrote: post #89

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In my experience with family members who have 8G laptops, they are not fine. Even my mother who just uses a web browser, mail.app and occasinally Photos is not fine with 8G. Her MacBook Pro regularly ground to a halt. I replaced it with a used model that was almost exactly the same except that it has 16G and now she is fine.

I don't in any way believe you, sorry. There's absolutely no way anyone with that workload is hitting RAM limits. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnuNs_Nu46Q

I get by with 8GB in my 2015 MPB, but only because I use aggressive ad blocking to keep browser memory usage somewhat in check. I still have 3.5GB of swap in use and 1.25GB of RAM compressed. I suppose for a light user who doesn't keep as many browser tabs open, 8GB may be sufficient even without an ad blocker, but it's close.

16GB is definitely more than "marginal". There's nothing wrong with a mid-range laptop shipping with 16GB of DRAM.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by blackhaz »

dangus wrote: post #101
pivo wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience with family members who have 8G laptops, they are not fine. Even my mother who just uses a web browser, mail.app and occasinally Photos is not fine with 8G. Her MacBook Pro regularly ground to a halt. I replaced it with a used model that was almost exactly the same except that it has 16G and now she is fine.

I don't in any way believe you, sorry. There's absolutely no way anyone with that workload is hitting RAM limits. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnuNs_Nu46Q

With browsers eating half a gig just to launch these days, I agree 8 GB is borderline. I often hit the limit even just doing web browsing, e-mailing and a mix of other apps here and there, nothing fancy.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by eiriklv »

seppin wrote: post #72
rsync wrote: post #62

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"Pro Tip: The MacBook Air line of today has taken over for the MacBook line ..." OK, I think that is correct. But then what is the MacBook Air now ? I am typing on a 2015 11" MBA that is, in my opinion, the high point of laptop design and execution ever . With this laptop, Apple solved the laptop - the same way that they solved the tower form factor with the original Mac Pro.

I prefer the newer keyboard, but otherwise I agree. My 2014 11'' with 16GB RAM performs better than a 2018 MBP.

Are you sure it’s 16GB RAM? I maxed out mine and only have 8GB.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by fetus8 »

toasterlovin wrote: post #93
fetus8 wrote: post #60

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Ritchie often just reiterates what's on the press release, and then praises said products with little to no contextual input on how or why a product is great.

FWIW, I think mostly your impression of Ritchie is a result of the format he writes in (high-traffic tech site). When he's on Gruber's podcast, he has pretty nuanced and thoughtful opinions on things. So much so that I'd say that he's easily one of the best regular guests.

Interesting. I've listened to Gruber's podcast before, but don't think I've heard Ritchie on as a guest. I'll find an episode and dig in.

I've watched Ritchie's Youtube channel on and off over the last few years, and he still gives me the same feeling as his written work.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by wmf »

quux wrote: post #95
yoz-y wrote: post #71

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I think there are three: the golden watch, the coffee table book and the Apple Park. Although the park seems to have worked out really well in the end.

Wasn't Apple Park a passion project of Steve Jobs as much as Ive?

The part where Ive stopped working on Apple products for years so the Park could have cooler door handles rubbed some people the wrong way.

Re: The 2020 MacBook Air

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Post by abathur »

dillutedfixer wrote: post #30

I wish Apple would bring back a true anti-glare matte display option. I can't stand the reflectivity on any of their laptops despite their claim that it's "anti-glare." I love the macOS ecosystem, but I REALLY love the 100% Adobe matte 4k screen on my Dell Precision.

Yeah. I like the newer displays indoors, but I think I would take the old display for reduced glare and battery use if it was an option.
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