New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

Post by asdfasgasdgasdg » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:43 PM UTC

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Snuffing out the virus absolutely is an option. If we adopt a stance that makes R0 > We will build herd immunity as people contract the virus, develop antibodies and recover from it. This is a pipe dream, at least outside the context where we are going to accept megadeaths or years of social distancing. The hospital capacity of the US is such that, if we were to run them all at 100% and somehow hold the virus exactly…

How is it possible to make R0 It's impossible, unfortunately. There are billions on the planet without even access to the internet. Many don't have running water or consistent food. How can we get R0 less than 1 there?

Post by bdefore » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

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Why does the guidance linked from the article here: https://esd.ny.gov/guidance-executive-order-2026 mention a 75% reduction and the actual order linked from there: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-2026-continuing-temporar... mention 50%? Are they updating the order minute to minute?

> Are they updating the order minute to minute? Yes. That was 2 days ago. It's a fluid, uncertain situation.

Post by mistermann » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

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Man, I hate this take. I get where it's coming from. In times of significant stress, it's important that we all pull together and do work to benefit society as a whole. And part of the way we incentivize that is by calling out people who don't do their part. I get it. But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. We've already got enoug…

> But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. The problem with "outrage culture" isn't the outrage; it's the target of the outrage. This is real stuff, consequential, non-trivial. It's good to be outraged when people behave outrageously. It's not so good when what you're trying to do is get a stranger fired for a tweet you could easil…

Post by romants » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

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Probably the only time it's appropriate for outrage culture and to focus on the negative is exactly right now. Shame and tell everyone whenever possible to stay the fuck inside because those are going to be the people that make you stay in lockdown for 6 months instead of 2. Otherwise this will be 10x worse in the US

No, it won't. If people mingle and fail to "flatten the curve", the whole mess will be over sooner, albeit with more dead old people. If you believe you can starve the virus of hosts, you're delusional.

Post by fiftyfifty » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

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A month? Wouldn't it be more like 1-2 weeks?

The problem we are going to have in the US is some states are responding better than others. NY looks bad right now because they are testing a lot. States like Florida, Louisiana and Georgia are already in double digit deaths each and don't have the positive cases to account for them. Going forward the rate of deaths will be far more indicative of what's happening than just the positive cases and that is going to con…