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New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because without subways many of those essential services (including health care) stop functioning as workers can't get to their jobs. Then everything goes to hell as actual mass panic breaks out.

Seems to be little appreciation on the internet for the fact that even in this situation, a big chunk of the population still has to go to work otherwise everything will collapse.

You mean not everyone can just expense a few monitors and an Aeron and cozy up?

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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It seems highly likely that the US is headed where the whole of Europe is now: over 100,000 positives, over 5,000 deaths. We waited too long for actions like this. It will take a month before we see a drop in cases and deaths

A month? Wouldn't it be more like 1-2 weeks?

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The side effects of exponential growth. It changes minds quickly.

I think the growth is a result of a focused effort to ramp up testing. Meanwhile if we are to have any confidence in the numbers (we probably shouldn't), according to the John's Hopkins counts, New York state currently has a surprisingly low CFR. 38 deaths / 5715 cases = 0.7% CFR

It's both. Ramping up testing which is giving a view into the impact of the previously underestimated exponential growth.

The low CFR rate is simply time. It takes roughly 3 weeks from infection to death. Meaning deaths should be compared with count of infections 2-3 weeks ago to calculate CFR.

Separately, there likely were a number more than died from it previously that didn't get testing because testing was so hard to come by (and the scope of the spread was not yet understood).

If NYC hospitals get overwhelmed like they are possibly on pace to, don't be shocked if you see CFR rise up to 4-5%. Especially as growth in new cases no longer out strip existing (which suppresses naively calculated CFR).

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because without subways many of those essential services (including health care) stop functioning as workers can't get to their jobs. Then everything goes to hell as actual mass panic breaks out.

Seems to be little appreciation on the internet for the fact that even in this situation, a big chunk of the population still has to go to work otherwise everything will collapse.

Another reason for everyone to stay home. Reduce risk of infecting people who NEED to go out.

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.

On an interesting corollary, knowing what dangerously little I know about the MTA and its unions, are drivers griping about disease exposure? The NY subway is fairly labour-intensive as mass transit systems go...

23 MTA employees with confirmed cases. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/23-mta-employees-sick-with...

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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post #25

Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.

Oaklander here. I watched my normal AC Transit commuter bus go by around five yesterday while I took a walk. It was empty, but I assume it’s for the same purpose, transport for essential workers.

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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Quote from NYTimes: > For days, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York City has pushed for a “shelter in place” order and the governor has repeatedly dismissed the idea, saying he would not quarantine New Yorkers in their homes. He also spoke on a popular podcast earlier this week about DEFINITELY NOT taking this kind of action

The side effects of exponential growth. It changes minds quickly.

Actually, we have always been at war with Eurasia. Trump knew it was going to be a pandemic all along!

Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services

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So that’s CA and NY both with shelter in place. Strange that WA hasn’t implemented it yet.

This seems to be a reaction to people not doing it on their own sufficiently enough, like what happened in Italy. Perhaps Washingtonians are taking the recommendations more seriously, so they don't require an official mandate. That decision can't be a light one, and I don't envy those that have to make it.

There are still many employers that refuse to allow work from home for employees that can.
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