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Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
Do they have a definition of what constitutes non-essential?
Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
Because without subways many of those essential services (including health care) stop functioning as workers can't get to their jobs. Then everything goes to hell as actual mass panic breaks out.
There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_the_United_Stat...
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
I guess the legal argument comes down to a lack of a comma between 'invasion' and 'the public safety'. Or whether a virus constitutes 'invasion'.
The governor also said there will not be any civil penalties for individuals that do not stay at home.
So that’s CA and NY both with shelter in place. Strange that WA hasn’t implemented it yet.
Do they have a definition of what constitutes non-essential?
EDIT: Here is the order.
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-2026-continuing-temporar...
> Any essential business or entity providing essential services or functions shall not be subject to the in-person restrictions. This includes essential health care operations including research and laboratory services; essential infrastructure including utilities, telecommunication, airports and transportation infrastructure; essential manufacturing, including food processing and pharmaceuticals; essential retail including grocery stores and pharmacies; essential services including trash collection, mail, and shipping services; news media; banks and related financial institutions; providers of basic necessities to economically disadvantaged populations; construction; vendors of essential services necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation and essential operations of residences or other essential businesses; vendors that provide essential services or products, including logistics and technology support, child care and services needed to ensure the continuing operation of government agencies and provide for the health, safety and welfare of the public;
Quote from NYTimes: > For days, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York City has pushed for a “shelter in place” order and the governor has repeatedly dismissed the idea, saying he would not quarantine New Yorkers in their homes. He also spoke on a popular podcast earlier this week about DEFINITELY NOT taking this kind of action
The side effects of exponential growth. It changes minds quickly.
38 deaths / 5715 cases = 0.7% CFR
Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
My guess would be because it's how a lot of essential workers get to work.