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New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
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#22Is there a non-paywalled link?
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Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#23There is currently no plan in place to penalize individuals for gathering socially Then people won't take the rules seriously. Lots of people in this country still don't believe or understand how much damage this virus can inflict.
Man, I hate this take. I get where it's coming from. In times of significant stress, it's important that we all pull together and do work to benefit society as a whole. And part of the way we incentivize that is by calling out people who don't do their part. I get it.
But we are already inundated by outrage journalism, cancel culture, and public shaming. The last thing we need is more of that. We've already got enough things to be stressed, worried, anxious, and angry about.
The vast majority of people will respect the good advice coming from leadership, and those people are the ones who deserve our attention, in a positive way.
Look at this like engineering. With a large enough system, you are always going to have some components that fail. When your network has a million machines, you don't get upset when a server goes down, you just engineer some tolerance into your network, define processes to handle them, and go on with your life.
I have been constantly gratified by how many people are doing the right thing and those are the people that I want to focus my own attention on. I think we will all get through this with a little more sanity and emotional health if we can take a break from the perennial game of torches and pitchforks for a while.
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legally, does the state and federal goverment have the power to control the movement of people? Does the state have the power to control my movement from my own home to the end of the street for my daily walk?
Of course they have the power: they have the guns. That's not the real question; the real questions are 1) whether the populace will tolerate it, and how much; 2) whether the state's forces will willingly open fire on intolerant citizens; 3) whether the state chooses to use the power, whether legal or not.
The first word in the post you're responding to is "legally". Obviously the state has guns. Come on!!
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#25Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
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#26Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
My guess would be because it's how a lot of essential workers get to work.
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#27Why are the subways still open? Seems like low hanging fruit to close those.
Because without subways many of those essential services (including health care) stop functioning as workers can't get to their jobs. Then everything goes to hell as actual mass panic breaks out.
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#28Is there a non-paywalled link?
Re: New York Governor announces 100% workforce reduction for non-essential services
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if people meet socially outside of work, they still aren't _required_ to go to work. Which means a lot of people can practice social distancing. People are scared, many will avoid groups (others may throw parties, but can't help that). I know in my neighborhood, everyone is outside but we are all maintaining 2 meter distance. Some neighbors even brought up their grills and stayed seperate but can talk (at a dist…
> but can't help that They're fining (~$140) and detaining people who don't follow the rules in France. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3...
Doing that in the US is a Supreme Court case waiting to happen.
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#30Why does the guidance linked from the article here: https://esd.ny.gov/guidance-executive-order-2026 mention a 75% reduction and the actual order linked from there: https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-2026-continuing-temporar... mention 50%?
Are they updating the order minute to minute?