Levandowski agrees to plea deal over Google secrets

Post by gowld » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:01 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #45

seibelj wrote: post #14

After admitting his guilt and serving his time, would you refuse to work with him again? It seems like he was a brilliant guy who made a bad mistake. I don’t think he’s unemployable. Isn’t prison punishment enough? Time is the only irreplaceable resource we have.

No doubt he is capable. I think he'll end up somewhere and just fine. Someone will be willing to take a chance on him. Personally I'm not smart enough / likely to end up working with him. But just for the sake of argument if I was I would be wary. He took all that stuff with him... that no doubt included the work of people around him, and that showed a lot of disregard not just for his employer, but his peers. I coul…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:52 PM UTC

saghm wrote: post #51

earthtourist wrote: post #20

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The question in criminal cases should be: how many people's lives were hurt by the crime, and how severely? In this case, no one's life was the slightest bit injured. Uber is most likely too incompetent to be a real threat. Waymo has undoubtedly advanced far from the versions of everything that he copied illegally. It won't damage them at all. If anything, the lawsuit and criminal case were probably more damaging to…

> Uber is most likely too incompetent to be a real threat I don't necessarily disagree with all of your comment, but I feel like incompetence should not be a factor in determining punishment severity. Being unprofitable should not be a valid defense for illegal behavior.

Post by earthtourist » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 2:57 PM UTC

saghm wrote: post #51

earthtourist wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question in criminal cases should be: how many people's lives were hurt by the crime, and how severely? In this case, no one's life was the slightest bit injured. Uber is most likely too incompetent to be a real threat. Waymo has undoubtedly advanced far from the versions of everything that he copied illegally. It won't damage them at all. If anything, the lawsuit and criminal case were probably more damaging to…

> Uber is most likely too incompetent to be a real threat I don't necessarily disagree with all of your comment, but I feel like incompetence should not be a factor in determining punishment severity. Being unprofitable should not be a valid defense for illegal behavior.

Post by cjensen » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

michaelt wrote: post #58

cjensen wrote: post #5

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Is your complaint that his sentence is too light? Or that non-white collar crime is punished too harshly?

foolfoolz is complaining that the sentence is light compared to non-white-collar crimes For example, if you can get 12 years for shoplifting $40 [1] or life in prison for stealing $153 of video tapes [2] that stands in stark contrast to starting a company with stolen IP and selling it for $680M and getting 2.5 years. Some people see this as part of a pattern where the justice system, run by upper-middle-class types,…

Post by x0x0 » Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

earthtourist wrote: post #74

ehsankia wrote: post #8

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This wasn't "an idea" being stolen, it was years of work and documents, nearly 10GB of it. That's very different from a big company taking someone's idea and recreating something similar from scratch.

Not "stolen" but copied. Google was not deprived of anything whatsoever.