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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by gorgoiler »

wwweston wrote: post #529
newbie578 wrote: post #524

This is pure bullshit. If Netflix won't commit to it's part of the deal (FULL HD and 4K) then why should I commit to my part (13.99 monthly)? You cannot decide by yourself to lower the quality of your services and keep the price same. Sometimes I wish I had enough money and time to seek "legal retribution" from these type of situations. I would love for this case to make it to the European Court in Strasbourg. "The v…

You know, for a while I thought “the doors aren’t automatic at the REI” might be the ultimate first world problem, but now I think “I have to suffer through my pandemic passtime shows in standard definition ? where are my LAWYERS?” might be in first place.

Yours is a fun take, which I enjoyed :)

I’m sure we agree that there are legitimate grievances here about consumer rights†, that are worth thinking about.

As the most powerful entities in the economy — not even by virtue of the goods they produce, but by the amount of people they employ and the money they spend — companies like Netflix have to uphold their social contract and be seen to be upholding their social contract!

† In the Netflix example, not the REI example.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by C1sc0cat »

rococode wrote: post #246

I've been having major internet issues lately (Seattle area), have had 4 techs come try to figure it out. Yesterday's tech finally correctly diagnosed the problem as happening before the connection reaches our home but was unsure of the cause. He called his supervisor to investigate, and they found that the capacity for our neighborhood's node was nearly at 100%, while ideally it should always be under 80%. Fortunate…

Makes me glad I went with the Business version of Vodaphone in the UK - which is ironically £1 cheaper a month than the consumer.

I suspect its the services that relay on super low prices and don't have excess capacity Talk Talk etc that are really going to feel the pressure in the UK

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Post by john_alan »

mgoetzke wrote: post #595
john_alan wrote: post #586

This drives me fucking mental. It's not about being insensitive about the quality reduction, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE DYING, I KNOW that's more important than Netflix. I don't care if they stop ALL services, but DONT FUCKING CHARGE ME THEN.

Well if 'doing your part' only means 720p instead of 1080 or 4k at the same price for a little while, I think that is more than acceptable

I don't get this.

It's not that I'm unwilling to donate a few bucks or take a hit for this situation. I have helped as much as I can.

I still don't think its acceptable for Netflix to decide to charge me the same for a worse service.

Why do people equate dissatisfaction at a large entertainment company charging for something they are not delivering with being insensitive??

I don't care if they reduce quality, stop the service entirely and cease to exist, but don't charge me for something you're not delivering.

I'm happy if they want to immediately cease all online video, just don't fucking charge me!

If this move saves lives GREAT!

Just don't CHARGE ME as if you are still delivering the contracted product.

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Post by abjKT26nO8 »

rococode wrote: post #246

I've been having major internet issues lately (Seattle area), have had 4 techs come try to figure it out. Yesterday's tech finally correctly diagnosed the problem as happening before the connection reaches our home but was unsure of the cause. He called his supervisor to investigate, and they found that the capacity for our neighborhood's node was nearly at 100%, while ideally it should always be under 80%. Fortunate…

You're describing an issue specific to US ISPs. It doesn't apply to Europe. From what I read even before the pandemic the US ISPs offered rather crappy services. In Europe, particularly in Poland, I don't have and haven't heard about anyone having any issues with connectivity right now, even though the country is in lockdown, schools and universities are closed, restaurants work only in delivery/take-out mode, companies switched to remote work, ... And still no issues at home nor at work.

Don't make decisions about the European infrastructure based on American problems.

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Post by wor3q »

unionpivo wrote: post #575
martin_a wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like ISPs could have build and extended their bandwidth over the last years, for example with the 40 €/month my father pays for < 16 MBit internet connection.

That is not the point. It is what it is right now, and we need solutions that will work right now. Doesn't really matter why, we need solutions now. After the pandemic, we can discuss the whys, and ,make sure it doesn't happen in the future.

The problem is, now is the only time when something actually can be done. When this overs, we're going back to "everything's fine" until some crisis happens again...

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Post by martin_a »

lentil_soup wrote: post #558
martin_a wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like ISPs could have build and extended their bandwidth over the last years, for example with the 40 €/month my father pays for < 16 MBit internet connection.

Where is that? I think internet quality varies quite a lot within the EU, urban vs rural, etc so we can'treally generalise. I pay less than 40eur for a 600mbit connection.

In Germany, 40 €/month can get you anything between While the infrastructure is quite stable where it has been extended, those rural areas ("not prioritized for broadband builds") are also affected by the lockdown, people have to work from home, use the internet all day etc. pp. In those places, the infrastructure reaches its limits pretty quickly all the time. This will cause _serious_ damage to local businesses for no good reason other than ISPs unwillingness to invest there.

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Post by martin_a »

unionpivo wrote: post #575
martin_a wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like ISPs could have build and extended their bandwidth over the last years, for example with the 40 €/month my father pays for < 16 MBit internet connection.

That is not the point. It is what it is right now, and we need solutions that will work right now. Doesn't really matter why, we need solutions now. After the pandemic, we can discuss the whys, and ,make sure it doesn't happen in the future.

Nobody will do anything once it's over. Nothing more to say.

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Post by martin_a »

avh02 wrote: post #553
martin_a wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like ISPs could have build and extended their bandwidth over the last years, for example with the 40 €/month my father pays for < 16 MBit internet connection.

counter-anecdote: i pay 40 euros for 200 Mbit edit:misspelling

I get 100 MBit for 40 €/month. As mentioned in another comment, it's not about Netflix but doing home office during lockdown, remote work in general and more. People in those "underdeveloped" areas are really fucked, altough they pay the same money that I do. They just don't simply get anything (better) for that.
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