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Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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Yes we are. I want you to keep this fact in mind: We don't know how many people are infected. We only the number from people who go in to get checked. For all you know there's a ton of people with a slight flu that are now fine. My son and myself had a pretty rough cough and fever Feb 30. Could that have been the chinese virus? We don't know. Extrapolate. Based on everything I've read there's two schools of thought:…

I feel offended as a Chinese when you call it 'Chinese virus'.

I think you were blaming Chinese people for whatever reason, even you didn't mean to.

You don't want to lose your family or friends, or suffering in economic recession.

We don't want it too.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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post #91

Yes we are. I want you to keep this fact in mind: We don't know how many people are infected. We only the number from people who go in to get checked. For all you know there's a ton of people with a slight flu that are now fine. My son and myself had a pretty rough cough and fever Feb 30. Could that have been the chinese virus? We don't know. Extrapolate. Based on everything I've read there's two schools of thought:…

I feel offended as a Chinese when you call it 'Chinese virus'. I think you were blaming Chinese people for whatever reason, even you didn't mean to. You don't want to lose your family or friends, or suffering in economic recession. We don't want it too.

That's ridiculous, we call it the chinese virus just like the spanish flu was called "spanish flu". It's called that because of it's place of origin.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel offended as a Chinese when you call it 'Chinese virus'. I think you were blaming Chinese people for whatever reason, even you didn't mean to. You don't want to lose your family or friends, or suffering in economic recession. We don't want it too.

That's ridiculous, we call it the chinese virus just like the spanish flu was called "spanish flu". It's called that because of it's place of origin.

Knowing why you call it won't help with the feeling or this communication.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel offended as a Chinese when you call it 'Chinese virus'. I think you were blaming Chinese people for whatever reason, even you didn't mean to. You don't want to lose your family or friends, or suffering in economic recession. We don't want it too.

That's ridiculous, we call it the chinese virus just like the spanish flu was called "spanish flu". It's called that because of it's place of origin.

And that is exactly the issue we are trying to fix here.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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Regarding your question about if we might accidentally test for flu or other, already existing corona virii: This was a topic of discussion in yesterday's talk [1] with Dr. Drosten, a virologist who played an important part in the development of the currently used PCR test. He said that there were extensive studies done with hundreds of samples from both flu patients and patients infected with other corona virii and…

It's easy to get a low rate of false positives: Just always report no virus found. So, we care about both false positives and false negatives. Dr. Brix said as much recently.

Prof. Drosten is the chief virologist at Berlin Charité.

I'm confident that somewhere in his medical education the concept of false negatives came up, and I'm also certain that he doesn't word his answers in an interview for the general public to the standards of the nitpicking HN population.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

#99
I'm from Spain, one of the most exposed countries right now. At first you see this as something distant, something that was happening in China as Ebola was happening years ago on Africa.

It can't touch me.

A few days ago the state of alarm began over here. Remain at home, minimal movement (just to go for groceries, pharma, the rest of retail businesses are closed now). It felt closer, but still you feel safe. You're at home, theoretically isolated.

And then you start hearing that people near you got sick and even die. One friend's father died a couple days ago. Other relative has been confirmed with covid-19 yesterday. More cases coming everyday. They are no longer points in a chart. These are your people.

We are not overreacting. We reacted late.

Take care.

Re: Ask HN: Are we overreacting to coronavirus?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to get a low rate of false positives: Just always report no virus found. So, we care about both false positives and false negatives. Dr. Brix said as much recently.

Prof. Drosten is the chief virologist at Berlin Charité. I'm confident that somewhere in his medical education the concept of false negatives came up, and I'm also certain that he doesn't word his answers in an interview for the general public to the standards of the nitpicking HN population.

That's a bit weak though. Right now what the world needs more than anything is precise, clear, accurate information. It's really hard to do that, I got called on making a vaguely worded and misleading statement here on HN just the other day. But then again it's not my job to make such statements. When it is, I take more care than I do in this little box.

Why can't we ask for more?

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