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Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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I am more and more reluctant to use any note taking app. Ideally, notes I take on the book I am reading today should still be available to me in 20 years. No app can offer that kind of guarantee. I switched to using plaintext files, and do not look back. The only thing one needs is to have a clear workflow to make sure notes remain accessible and useful. I like the Zettelkasten method for this (see eg https://zettelk…

OneNote has been around since 2003. I have been using it since 2004. Not 20 years but close.

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. The In-app-purchase gives you inking, linking by drawing lines, freeform excerpts, multiple documents in a single project, and more. 2. Sign-up required: no. 3. Does this require 3rd party servers: no, stores everything locally. Happy to answer any other questions (I'm founder @ LT)!

Is there any way to export the data into a standard, editable file format? (Ideally something like markdown...)? I hate to build up a huge library of notes that are only usable in one piece of software...

Yes, even in the free version, export as PDF (higher fidelity), or export notes as an outline in DOCX for easy editing in Word.

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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I am more and more reluctant to use any note taking app. Ideally, notes I take on the book I am reading today should still be available to me in 20 years. No app can offer that kind of guarantee. I switched to using plaintext files, and do not look back. The only thing one needs is to have a clear workflow to make sure notes remain accessible and useful. I like the Zettelkasten method for this (see eg https://zettelk…

> notes I take on the book I am reading today should still be available to me in 20 years. No app can offer that kind of guarantee Emacs + Org Mode You can be sure Emacs will still be around in 20 years and Org Mode stores notes in text format.

throw in org-roam and you've got a real solid zettelkasten

https://github.com/jethrokuan/org-roam

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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I am more and more reluctant to use any note taking app. Ideally, notes I take on the book I am reading today should still be available to me in 20 years. No app can offer that kind of guarantee. I switched to using plaintext files, and do not look back. The only thing one needs is to have a clear workflow to make sure notes remain accessible and useful. I like the Zettelkasten method for this (see eg https://zettelk…

yeah, I had the same issue and used a few markdown editors and landed on JOPLIN. Joplin has some good integration with online backups and semi-decent encryption setup.

notable was quite impressive until *(Notable was originally released as open-source but newer versions of it are no longer open-source.) and for apps I use often I try to keep them FOSS.

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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It’s a nice app for light users, but if you try to use it heavily as a detailed infinity board with lots and lots of notes spread around the canvas visually, you’ll quickly get flustered by the lack of quality-of-life improvements . Examples would be lack of setting text styles , requiring -every-single-textbox- you create to click through three or more separate ui flows to change the: color, size, emphasis, (and fon…

Fair point about the updates, we're getting ready to launch a few bigger ones (es. a Win and MacOS version). Hopefully we can improve the other flows you mention. (I'm founder @ LT)

Hi, long time liquid text user here. I’ve been asking for this simple feature forever but it’s never been implemented. Can we just create a dang blank document? I know we can import documents and webpages, but how hard would it be to just let us start off with a blank paged document without having to import something?

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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I got an iPad just to use LiquidText, back when I had to study for my PhD qualifying exam a few years ago. It has so many great UI affordances -- the way it shows search results, highlighted text, connections between notes and the text, the ability to easily see multiple parts of a document at the same time, and others. It made reading and studying textbooks an experience rivaling the real thing (and you don't have t…

Can I ask why you don't use it anymore? (I'm founder at LT) Anything we could do to make it more of a post-school app for you as well?

Here are a few things I can think of:

1. My Dropbox folder of paper pdfs is a total mess, only made manageable because I use JabRef to open them. From within LiquidText, I have a hard time finding the papers I want. Being able to find papers again at all seems to be the main productivity boost in my math research right now, and JabRef has been great for that, even though it doesn't do fulltext search of the pdfs themselves. One important feature, here, is that JabRef helps me see papers in some historical context -- both when they were published and which other papers I was looking at when it was added to my bib file.

2. I consume lots of papers (but not necessarily in careful detail, making LT features potentially less useful), and I found the friction of having to import and manage the library within LiquidText to be a little too much for me, especially through a touch interface.

3. I like having multiple papers in front of me simultaneously. On my desktop, I tend to have multiple documents open across two monitors. I also like being able to use a physical keyboard and to have the precision of a mouse. It's nice that alt-tab (or command-backtick) is a nearly instantaneous operation.

4. Since I don't use my iPad, it tends not to be charged, leading to less use. It's also a model that can't use an Apple Pencil, so I haven't been incentivized to move all my note-taking and thinking to tablet computers.

I would really like a pdf document viewer like LiquidText for both MacOS and Linux. I put my e-mail address in for hearing about the MacOS version.

I also think that I should be using it more. I might just be lazy and not using the right tools.

By the way, Jofish was the one who recommended LiquidText to me. I forgot to also follow up on his advice to send you some immediate thoughts I had in 2016; I'm not sure they'd still be useful, but here they are anyway:

> LiquidText really is good, and it makes me (mostly) happy reading textbooks digitally. My only complaint is that with long books, say 500 pages, I have a hard time scrolling to an exact point because it becomes too sensitive, but I'm not really sure how that could be fixed (maybe a reader device which a hollowed out book you can open up to a particular page? or maybe pointier fingers?) Search-and-pinch is one of the main ways I skip around, though creating temporary comments works well, too. I find "finger-between-pages" double-scroll causes it to crash too often with Springer pdfs, so I've just avoided that feature. Maybe what characterizes LiquidText is that it doesn't disincentivize jumping back and forth between different parts of a book too much.

> Every once in a while, if I want to think of buying something, I click the "multi-doc" button to see the advertisement. Though eventually I'll probably give the LiquidText people money just to support them.

(I did end up paying for some extra features.)

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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Ok, grammar nazi alert. Who uses the word academical? I had to google it just to confirm it is indeed a word, albeit a rarely used one that is indistinguishable from the simpler, and in my opinion, the proper word, “academic”.

A bit like saying “that’s nonsensical” vs “that’s nonsense’. https://wikidiff.com/academic/academical

Re: LiquidText: A tool for academical note taking

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Ok, grammar nazi alert. Who uses the word academical? I had to google it just to confirm it is indeed a word, albeit a rarely used one that is indistinguishable from the simpler, and in my opinion, the proper word, “academic”. A bit like saying “that’s nonsensical” vs “that’s nonsense’. https://wikidiff.com/academic/academical

Why be so polemical?
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