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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by dragonwriter »

jandrese wrote: post #212
DavidVoid wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a related note, if you watch Netflix in Chrome or Firefox then you're only getting a resolution of 720p. Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux Up to 1080p on Chrome OS Internet Explorer up to 1080p Microsoft Edge up to 4K* Mozilla Firefox up to 720p Opera up to 720p Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later *Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Inte…

Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

If you pirate it originally yourself, sure.

Pirated content from other people that lies about what it is isn't unheard of, though.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by Fripplebubby »

mikkelam wrote: post #173
DavidVoid wrote: post #152

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On a related note, if you watch Netflix in Chrome or Firefox then you're only getting a resolution of 720p. Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux Up to 1080p on Chrome OS Internet Explorer up to 1080p Microsoft Edge up to 4K* Mozilla Firefox up to 720p Opera up to 720p Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later *Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Inte…

This is really driving me nuts... Netflix is consistently giving me subpar resolution in firefox. It's quite rare that I even get 720p. Yet switching to microsoft edge, boom suddenly it's great. There used to be some extensions to switch the resolution up on chrome and firefox, but I do believe they're not working anymore. Another case for piracy I guess.

> Another case for piracy I guess.

The notion here is, because of these annoying steps and gotchas, there will not be 4k rips of their content floating around. I don't keep up on the piracy scene these days but I have to imagine that it can still be done, as with the setup from the blog. So goes the story of DRM, it is a painful step that doesn't quite prevent piracy - but if you're netflix or other streaming services, you're working closely with the implementors of the DRM tech (microsoft, widevine, others) and you're not going to just throw in the towel given that it's always a work in progress.

Sometimes there are also licensing requirements around having DRM attached, probably applies to Netflix in certain cases (although less and less these days).

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by pilsetnieks »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #98
ritchiea wrote: post #80

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Here in Berlin my DSL connection has been awful since the social distancing began. And many of my friends have complained of similar problems. Frequent disconnections, broken up zoom calls. Though ironically the streaming has been fine from both Netflix & Amazon.

If streaming works, but zoom doesn't, maybe the issue is with the zoom servers?

Rather the differences between protocols employed. Streaming video can be sent in chunks where latency doesn't matter that much (within certain tolerances, of course.) Realtime voice and video doesn't have that.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by kodt »

DavidVoid wrote: post #229
jandrese wrote: post #212

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Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

Not always at a great bitrate though. I haven't really torrented anything in a while but I doubt there are many 20GB+ Blu-ray quality rips out there that you can download in a reasonable amount of time. EDIT: after reading the replies I stand corrected; it seems like there are some better quality uploads out there than I thought.

There are plenty, 30-40GB uncompressed BluRay remux rips are very common. Will download in under 15 minutes.

You can also find uncompressed 60-70GB UHD rips.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by leetcrew »

echelon wrote: post #157
gaius_baltar wrote: post #89

Best approach is just cancel Netflix (saying this was the reason) and go back to the torrents -- they will still have the best quality. They are lowering quality (of service or the catalog size, not always video) and keeping or increasing the prices for a while. Using a global pandemic as an excuse is just a new low.

Hogging bandwidth is detrimental to everyone, especially emergency personnel. Please don't do this. The government wouldn't ask if there wasn't a need. The alternative is having everyone's internet cut outright.

> The government wouldn't ask if there wasn't a need.

I wish I lived in this blissful world.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by casefields »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #91
cortesoft wrote: post #63

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Well, I hate to tell you the devastating news... you might have to eat the $3 this month.

It’s still bullshit.

All you need is a handful of small court claims to wake Netflix up. They'll spend a magnitude more on sending Netflix employees to represent them, than all these prorated refunds would cost.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by kingo55 »

jandrese wrote: post #212
DavidVoid wrote: post #152

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On a related note, if you watch Netflix in Chrome or Firefox then you're only getting a resolution of 720p. Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux Up to 1080p on Chrome OS Internet Explorer up to 1080p Microsoft Edge up to 4K* Mozilla Firefox up to 720p Opera up to 720p Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later *Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Inte…

Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

What a joke. We're punished for being paying customers.

It's like the oppressive DRM that hurts actual paying customers of games rather than the pirates who circumvent it.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by pilsetnieks »

deft wrote: post #227
rosybox wrote: post #50

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You know, right now is not a time to be thinking about your ability to get the luxury service and goods you're used to. It's about us all staying alive and keeping each other alive and making it through this. Maybe you have to do with a little bit less than you're used to, maybe you don't think it's fair because you've paid $5 extra for your extra stream quality. None of us think what's happening is fair, but we have…

Can I use this argument to the people/corporations I owe? "Oh just get over it and accept things, it's not yesterday anymore you can't just expect delivery on contracts!"

That's exactly what a force majeure is. It depends on the specific contract and the jurisdiction whether a pandemic counts as one but it very well could.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by fredoliveira »

DavidVoid wrote: post #229
jandrese wrote: post #212

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Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

Not always at a great bitrate though. I haven't really torrented anything in a while but I doubt there are many 20GB+ Blu-ray quality rips out there that you can download in a reasonable amount of time. EDIT: after reading the replies I stand corrected; it seems like there are some better quality uploads out there than I thought.

You'd be very surprised.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Post by capableweb »

DavidVoid wrote: post #229
jandrese wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

Not always at a great bitrate though. I haven't really torrented anything in a while but I doubt there are many 20GB+ Blu-ray quality rips out there that you can download in a reasonable amount of time. EDIT: after reading the replies I stand corrected; it seems like there are some better quality uploads out there than I thought.

> reasonable amount of time

Depends very much on your own bandwidth. For someone with 400Mbps, 20GB+ doesn't take that long time to download in the end, especially popular torrents.

But then again, not many have that kind of bandwidth available.

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