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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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A few months ago there was blog post posted here from a guy making movie reviews. In the blog post he described how he managed to get 4k Netflix screenshots on his Chromecast. The effort he made was enormous and involved reverse engineering the Netflix data protocol (I probably worded this wrong). When doing that he found out that Netflix streaming in 4k isn't actually 4k. Again not exactly sure how this worked but t…

On a related note, if you watch Netflix in Chrome or Firefox then you're only getting a resolution of 720p. Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux Up to 1080p on Chrome OS Internet Explorer up to 1080p Microsoft Edge up to 4K* Mozilla Firefox up to 720p Opera up to 720p Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later *Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Inte…

Note that if you pirate 1080p or 4k content you'll always get the full resolution you asked for.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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On a related note, if you watch Netflix in Chrome or Firefox then you're only getting a resolution of 720p. Google Chrome Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux Up to 1080p on Chrome OS Internet Explorer up to 1080p Microsoft Edge up to 4K* Mozilla Firefox up to 720p Opera up to 720p Safari up to 1080p on Mac OS X 10.10.3 or later *Streaming in 4K requires an HDCP 2.2 compliant connection to a 4K capable display, Inte…

This is really driving me nuts... Netflix is consistently giving me subpar resolution in firefox. It's quite rare that I even get 720p. Yet switching to microsoft edge, boom suddenly it's great. There used to be some extensions to switch the resolution up on chrome and firefox, but I do believe they're not working anymore. Another case for piracy I guess.

Change user-agent to impersonate Edge.

This is why I won't pay for premium resolution upgrades. It's too much of a hassle to ensure the entire video chain is providing what I paid for.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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What an utter joke. This is only needed because unlike the backbone operators who are pushing ridiculous record traffic through the IXs these days and don't even hit any limit on their capability, the last-mile operators have not done any major investments in their infrastructure. Cable TV internet is horribly oversold - Kabel Deutschland was already infamous, when they got bought up by Vodafone shit got even worse.…

> Cellphone internet is even worse but as data is horribly expensive in Germany no one dares streaming Netflix over that anyway...

Luckily we have net-neutrality infringing features like Telekom's "Stream On" where it's included /s

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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I think that's what they are relieving...edge traffic volumes. If the local ISP cache box lowers it's maximum quality, the ISPs get relief. The ISPs oversubscribed, and can't deal with this many people being at home all at once.

Citation needed. In the UK... "UK broadband companies say they can cope with increased demand as many more people stay at home during the coronavirus crisis." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51870732

I think that's a porkie, I am with Vodafone (Openreach) and it's completely crippled.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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This is really driving me nuts... Netflix is consistently giving me subpar resolution in firefox. It's quite rare that I even get 720p. Yet switching to microsoft edge, boom suddenly it's great. There used to be some extensions to switch the resolution up on chrome and firefox, but I do believe they're not working anymore. Another case for piracy I guess.

Change user-agent to impersonate Edge. This is why I won't pay for premium resolution upgrades. It's too much of a hassle to ensure the entire video chain is providing what I paid for.

It's more than that, Edge has far more DRM in it.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#218

Best approach is just cancel Netflix (saying this was the reason) and go back to the torrents -- they will still have the best quality. They are lowering quality (of service or the catalog size, not always video) and keeping or increasing the prices for a while. Using a global pandemic as an excuse is just a new low.

Hogging bandwidth is detrimental to everyone, especially emergency personnel. Please don't do this. The government wouldn't ask if there wasn't a need. The alternative is having everyone's internet cut outright.

I'm sorry - I'm sure you mean well, but this is downright false. This is not the US. In most European countries bandwidth is plentiful and this is completely unneeded political intervention based on not understanding technology. ISPs do actually upgrade their infrastructure without it being past collapse in Europe.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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While the whole world is trying to deal with the worst pandemic in 100 years, you are going to have to adjust your expectation levels for bullshit.

The pandemic doesn't affect what are good business practises. I understand that Americans might be more lenient in those terms, but Europeans tend not to be.

are you serious? not offering a refund when you fail to deliver the product is something that makes americans absolutely furious. it's one of the only sacred consumer protection issues here. I've already received billing credits or refunds for every service I'm subscribed to that's halted for coronavirus.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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And for further clarification, you won't see much Netflix traffic there because the big ISPs have Netflix caches within their infrastructure.

The big German ISPs don't have Netflix caches within their infrastructure, which might be part of the problem here. Last mile infrastructure might be even worse though.

Germany is rather odd compared to the other countries with its adoption of broadband tech - for example you see a decent bit of FTTH/FTTx in NL, NO/DK/SE (muni owned, early adopters), etc.

Then you go to Germany and it's mass of DSL (and some areas cable). I wonder what happened or why?

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