And I just finished setting up gitea(https://gitea.io/en-us/) on my server and mirrored all my repos. An elegant piece of software, setup was straightforward and took less than an hour.
GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
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Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#152Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…
Do you think as the EU and PRC grows politically and economically, they will start throwing around similar sanction requirements as the USA? Will GitHub be forced to obey those as well?
The EU has GDPR which has a provision against making automated decisions, which has been outlined by the UK as such: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio...
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#153Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…
How would this have been resolved if the post on Twitter/other social media didn't get enough traction? Is this just a terrible mistake because it has much more visibility than all of the other terrible mistakes?
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#154GitLab CEO here, thanks Nat for doing everything you can do to keep open source accessible around the world. We have to comply with the same restrictions and respect greatly that GitHub is taking the broadest possible interpretation of US sanctions law to help users.
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#155Let's take a moment and appreciate the copy and paste support response "If a user or organization believes that they have been flagged in error, then that user or organization owner has the opportunity to appeal the flag by providing verification information to GitHub. Please see our FAQ for the appeals request form." https://twitter.com/GitHubHelp/status/1240682163193942018 Is that an official GH account? It's old a…
It doesn't seem off-putting to me. The form is there for a reason. Filling it out is literally easier than explaining everything to a support person on Twitter point-by-point. If you want help, you can spend 60 seconds and fill out a damn web form.
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#156Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…
How would this have been resolved if the post on Twitter/other social media didn't get enough traction? Is this just a terrible mistake because it has much more visibility than all of the other terrible mistakes?
That's not a fair argument. You're demanding that GitHub prove the absence of any other mistakes. All they can do is fix bugs when they find them, the same as anyone else. If there's a systemic problem with the way they do sanction flagging, that needs evidence.
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#157GitHub has corrected the issue, restoring our organization access and web site. They have reported that the org was flagged as part of an automated process. The flagging occurred because we have two external contributors from Iran (non GH org members). They told me that there should have been a warning and they are investigating why that didn't happen. The CEO of GitHub also reached out personally to try to speedily…
So Iran could sponsor programmers to contribute to as many repos as possible? Then they can win a propaganda war of why Iran is progressive and good and the US is bad?
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#158Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…
I appreciate the difficult position you're in, wanting to provide and advocate access while also forced hard by government regulations which are heavy handed and often over-reaching.
I wonder though, as cool as it is that the CEO of Github posts here, maybe you shouldn't be making this comment. Now a bunch of commentators have raised similar issues and you are now obligated to some degree to contact your legal and engineering teams to look into it - this may result in you having to take down MORE content which was clearly nobody's intention. Rock meet hard place.
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would this have been resolved if the post on Twitter/other social media didn't get enough traction? Is this just a terrible mistake because it has much more visibility than all of the other terrible mistakes?
That's not a fair argument. You're demanding that GitHub prove the absence of any other mistakes. All they can do is fix bugs when they find them, the same as anyone else. If there's a systemic problem with the way they do sanction flagging, that needs evidence.
I disagree; it is a fair argument. This is the Tweet:
> I woke up this morning and you shut off the Aurelia site, archived tons of our repos, and I can no longer access admin settings. You sited US trade sanctions and sent me a non-descriptive email with no remediation information. What is going on? This is devastating for us!
"No remediation information," to me sounds like Twitter outrage was the remedy.
A follow up reply is this:
> The project has been public for 5yrs+, managed by a US company, whose owner is even a GitHub Insider and long time open source leader (15+ yrs).
Okay, there's the terrible mistake. It targeted someone with credentials, not a nobody.
Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
... to offer public repo access in US-sanctioned countries like Iran, Syria, and Cuba. You should also add North Korea to that list. Three years ago I spent a semester in Pyongyang teaching a course on open source software development, and as part of the course students created git repos and contributed to other repos that are hosted on github. So that you're not put in an awkward position, though, I won't tell you w…
I wonder do they use VPN to obfuscate where they come from?
All North Korean internet traffic originates from 175.45.176.0/22. They have no reason to hide (except for the massive amount of cyber crime they originate, where VPNs are used)