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GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by malberto »

woofcat wrote: post #69
Joker_vD wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, the idea is that those "Crimean or Iranian" would get pissed off at their government and revolt. Which, as the practice shows, doesn't quite work taht way. They get pissed off at the sanctioning government as well, and are less likely to believe that that government actually worries about their interests and rights and not, say, as using them as a free battering ram against their current government/regime…

However what's the alternative? Country 'A' would like to build a weapon of mass destruction. Country 'B' asks them nicely to not do that. They ignore the request and continue building the technology. At that point you can either do the following: - Ignore it and hope they don't destabilize the region / world. - Economic and Trade sanctions to slow down their progress, and impact the economy of the country. - Physica…

USA is full of weapon of mass destruction. You may agree or not that policy but the sheer fact that is true means that most contries go for - Ignore it and hope they don't destabilize the region / world.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by shadowgovt »

coliveira wrote: post #46
firloop wrote: post #2

This is pure speculation, but it seems that GitHub's ownership by Microsoft causes them to be significantly more strict with the types of content that they are comfortable hosting. Expect this to continue as they expand up and down the stack; once their npm acquisition closes you'll see this there too. I think this should be a wake-up call to anyone staking their open source project on GitHub — if I let someone from…

Nobody should depend on GitHub, especially after it was taken over by Microsoft. If you have any repository on GH, create similar accounts on competing sites such as bitbucket. Also consider services hosted in other countries, since it seems that local political prejudices and propaganda are starting to creep out on the science and technology arena.

"local political prejudices and propaganda" is a fascinating way to interpret "The US list of sanctioned countries."

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by jslakro »

frankdenbow wrote: post #25
stickfigure wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems peculiar since Rob Eisenberg (author of that tweet and lead of Aurelia) works for Microsoft .

Makes sense if you think of them as separate companies (which is how they are run)

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Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by nabakin »

natfriedman wrote: post #113

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…

Thank you for the response and swift action.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by mroche »

enriquto wrote: post #15
chatmasta wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitLab is fantastic, but GitHub has the most eyeballs and best discoverability features. As long as that remains true, GitHub will remain a better place to launch an open source product than alternatives.

You can use any old git repo as your main source, and "dump" every commit into github for visibility. Any issues and pull request into the github site are replied by an automatic answer to use some other site.

For my GitLab repos (where I maintain source/workflow) I use the mirror functionality to automatically push any and all all commits to GitHub. I configure the GitHub mirror with a link to the official repo and disable issues.

Unfortunately, you can’t outright disable GitHub’s pull requests. I’ve seen plenty of orphaned PRs on repos that do tracking/review elsewhere and people just don’t read (or actively ignore) the provided contributor guidelines.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by shadowgovt »

frankdenbow wrote: post #20
firloop wrote: post #2

This is pure speculation, but it seems that GitHub's ownership by Microsoft causes them to be significantly more strict with the types of content that they are comfortable hosting. Expect this to continue as they expand up and down the stack; once their npm acquisition closes you'll see this there too. I think this should be a wake-up call to anyone staking their open source project on GitHub — if I let someone from…

Microsoft lets Github run independently https://www.businessinsider.com/github-coo-microsoft-azure-e...

There's independently and independently. MS is on the hook for violations of US sanctions by any of its subsidiaries and constituent organizations; one can assume the legal team keeps an eye on Github's operations even if the main operations team allows for independent goals and direction of work.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by bartread »

WTH? GitHub is owned by Microsoft. Rob Eisenberg, who posted that tweet, works for Microsoft.

There's so much about this I don't get, not least of which is the fact that despite what the headline suggests, along with the amount of bile still being spewed on this thread, Aurelia is back up and running, as are all its repos: https://aurelia.io/, https://github.com/aurelia.

So, yes, GitHub properly effed up here, but they do at least appear to have backpedalled and fixed the problem quickly.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by shadowgovt »

cfv wrote: post #108
webo wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Code search, access permissions, code owners, 3rd party integrations?

If you tried looking it up yourself instead of making me feed you info in what totally looks like bad faith that would be awesome.

FWIW, I have attempted to look it up myself, and unlike Github, GitLab doesn't appear to allow me a transparent view into their offerings in action without signing up to start my free trial. Which is a lot more engagement than Github requires of someone just trying to discover capabilities.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by jackpirate »

natfriedman wrote: post #113

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Flagging this account was obviously a terrible mistake, and I apologize to anyone who was affected by it. We're investigating why it occurred and will make changes to make sure it doesn't happen again. I am glad that we restored access to the account in less than an hour after Aurelia filed their appeal. For context on why any account flagging is ever necessary, unfortunately, every comp…

... to offer public repo access in US-sanctioned countries like Iran, Syria, and Cuba.

You should also add North Korea to that list. Three years ago I spent a semester in Pyongyang teaching a course on open source software development, and as part of the course students created git repos and contributed to other repos that are hosted on github.

So that you're not put in an awkward position, though, I won't tell you which repos these are :)

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