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GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by jedberg »

antoncohen wrote: post #18

What frustrates me about these kind of things is how impersonal they are. How many orgs/users does GitHub sanction a day? Too many for it to be able to email the users and ask clarifying questions? Or even have a human dig in and double check what the algorithm says. Basic human interaction would seemingly solve 99% of false account lockouts and takedowns. Even basic heuristics like this org has a repo with 11,000 st…

Unfortunately US law dictates that you nuke first and ask questions later. You loose your platform protections if you don't.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by vetinari »

jan6 wrote: post #55
vetinari wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really a thing, to have to learn another site? If you know the basic functionality of Github, do you really have to learn to use similar functionality of Gitlab, Gitea, etc? Is it not enough to be familiar with the concepts?

well, the UI is different, so you have to learn to use that... the concepts can be quite similar, but execution, isn't

Sure, but the difference isn't that big.

Just like when people were switching from the blue e to firefox/chrome: these were different browsers, with different UI, but the concept of browsing the internet was the same. So in the end, the different UI didn't matter.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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firloop wrote: post #2

This is pure speculation, but it seems that GitHub's ownership by Microsoft causes them to be significantly more strict with the types of content that they are comfortable hosting. Expect this to continue as they expand up and down the stack; once their npm acquisition closes you'll see this there too. I think this should be a wake-up call to anyone staking their open source project on GitHub — if I let someone from…

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Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by iamleppert »

So disgusting their response: "If a user"

Addressing someone in the third person is about a far from empathy as one could get. Clearly, the signal is strong to begin the exodus from Github as soon as practical.

They can no longer be trusted, and are no longer developer friendly.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by echelon »

dang wrote: post #47
echelon wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GitHub has the most eyeballs You're being downvoted for a true statement. There is a lot of GitLab zealousness at HN. Please don't downvote simply because you disagree over product favoritism and outlook. Offer a refutation.

Comments like this break the site guidelines. Would you mind reviewing them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html One reason we ask users not to go on about downvotes is that users frequently come along and add corrective upvotes, but comments like this don't garbage-collect themselves. They start as off-topic and end by being off-topic and false.

Thanks, understood.

Re: GitHub shuts off access to Aurelia repository, citing trade sanctions

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Post by woofcat »

Joker_vD wrote: post #58
vasco wrote: post #44

Sanctions for online services are one of the worst things about working in this industry. Being forced to implement and maintain technical solutions to block access to every day citizens of certain regions because some guys in suits decided these are second tier humans is demoralizing as hell. How are people supposed to rise up and depose or vote for less tyranical governments if they cannot access information, or us…

Apparently, the idea is that those "Crimean or Iranian" would get pissed off at their government and revolt. Which, as the practice shows, doesn't quite work taht way. They get pissed off at the sanctioning government as well, and are less likely to believe that that government actually worries about their interests and rights and not, say, as using them as a free battering ram against their current government/regime…

However what's the alternative?

Country 'A' would like to build a weapon of mass destruction. Country 'B' asks them nicely to not do that.

They ignore the request and continue building the technology. At that point you can either do the following:

- Ignore it and hope they don't destabilize the region / world.

- Economic and Trade sanctions to slow down their progress, and impact the economy of the country.

- Physical blockade / severing of Internet connections.

- Declaration of war.

Unless you're saying we should simply ignore these states and let them do what ever they want. I don't really know what solution you would envision that would be _less_ impactful to the average citizen.

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