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> https://www.projectopenair.org/ From https://app.jogl.io/project/121#about >> Current Status of the project >> The main bottleneck currently (2020-03-13) is organization / management. >> […] This is an organization of experts and hobbyists from around the globe.

The link https://app.jogl.io/project/121#about doesn't go anywhere anymore. And there are no results for "ventilator" in the app.jogl.io search.

I see a "Ventilator Project" heading?

(edit) here's the link to their 'Ventilator' document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RDihfZIOEYs60kPEIVDe7gms...

Re: Pandemic Ventilator Project

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I'm an anaesthetics and intensive care trainee, so I know something about ventilation. The reason COVID-19 patients need to get ventilated is due to a failure of oxygenation - the infection causes direct lung injury (ARDS) which impairs oxygen absorption in the lung tissue. Normally we breathe room air, which is 21% oxygen, this drops to around 10% oxygen in the arterial blood due to inefficiencies in the absorption…

Any thoughts as to the early treatment with a medical BiPAP when full-function respirator therapy is not available?

Re: Pandemic Ventilator Project

#103

I'm an anaesthetics and intensive care trainee, so I know something about ventilation. The reason COVID-19 patients need to get ventilated is due to a failure of oxygenation - the infection causes direct lung injury (ARDS) which impairs oxygen absorption in the lung tissue. Normally we breathe room air, which is 21% oxygen, this drops to around 10% oxygen in the arterial blood due to inefficiencies in the absorption…

Any thoughts as to the early treatment with a medical BiPAP when full-function respirator therapy is not available?

Doesn't seem to be very helpful - In a multicenter cohort of 302 patients with MERS coronavirus, 92% of patients treated with BiPAP failed this modality and required intubation (Alraddadi 2019)

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I've been looking over the designs being put forward in the various places now, and I cannot understand why people aren't just planning to copy the Manley ventilator. This was the standard ventilator in Europe for decades. It is simple to design, does not even require electricity (mechanical solution driven by air from central compressed air system) so all parts can be sourced locally, and the design has a clinically…

ICU ventilators are surprisingly complicated machines, we've just brought some HAMILTON-C6 machines at work if you want an idea of the top of the line. Ventilating sick COVID patients, or indeed anyone with ARDS, is one of the most challenging things we do in intensive care. Even with high end commercial ventilators, the mortality rate for intubated COVID patients is >70%.

I would consider the following a bare-minimum feature set for a COVID patient ventilator, any less and it would do more harm than good:

- cycle between an inspiratory and expiratory phase

- during the inspiratory phase, deliver an adjustable volume of gas (in the region of 6 ml per kg of patient's body weight) using as little pressure as possible, with an adjustable upper limit of pressure (in the region of 30 cmH2O)

- during the expiratory phase provide an adjustable pressure against exhalation (in the region of 0-30 cmH2O)

- allow blending of air and oxygen to deliver an adjustable inspired oxygen fraction

- allow the timing of the inspiratory and expiratory phases to be independently varied, thereby allowing the respiratory rate and the ratio of inspiration to expiration time to be controlled. Permit respiratory rates in the range of 8-60 breaths per minute

- measure and display the pressures and volumes within the respiratory system

- allow adjustable alarm-limits for pressures and volumes, and provide clear audible and visual alarms if these values are exceeded

For added patient safety and benefit, the following would be helpful

- measure inspired and expired oxygen and carbon dioxide content, and display both on a continuous waveform graph

- allow the patient to initiate the inspiratory phase by sensing patient inspiratory effort and providing pressure support for inhalation; ie sense when the patient inhales and deliver 10-15 cmH2O pressure for 0.5 seconds to augment inhalation

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Ok, so what is the best way, in your opinion, for a still healthy hacker/maker geek to contribute something (anything?) to helping our local ICUs from being overwhelmed with patients? Edited to add: Spoken as the Dad of a 28 week premie who spent 8 weeks on a ventilator in a NICU.

There is a manufacturer of emergency ventilators. Why they aren't working triple shifts to make millions is beyond me.

Why do you think they aren't?

Re: Pandemic Ventilator Project

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i am an anaesthetist i trained using a manley ventilator covid patients apparently are easy to ventilate the issue is their gas exchange not their compliance a manley ventilator will do just fine for many patients, not all i accept but many

Re: Pandemic Ventilator Project

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i am an anaesthetist i trained using a manley ventilator covid patients apparently are easy to ventilate the issue is their gas exchange not their compliance a manley ventilator will do just fine for many patients, not all i accept but many

BTW ICU doenst use volatile anaesthetics to sedate people we tend to use opioids & benzos to sedate

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Anesthesiologist here - true, I was a Stanford medical student on an ICU rotation when a Tesla employee crashed his plane into high voltage power lines while attempting to land at San Carlos airport. Electrical power on the peninsula was out for an extended period of time. Battery backups eventually failed, then gas powered generators started failing so everyone with a pair of hands took turns manually ventilating th…

Why is it relevant he was a Tesla employee?

why not?
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