Am I the only one who would prefer the term "physical distancing". Social distancing seems open for confusion by people. Since when they say "social distancing" it seems to mean stay physically distant from each other.
New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
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#92> For every confirmed case of COVID-19, there are likely another five to 10 people with undetected infections. I wish this was reflected more in the numbers being presented by various authorities. There is just too much confidence that confirmed cases are representative of the spread of the virus. This unknown denominator can change mortality rate, and severe case rate by orders of magnitude. Because of the dearth of…
It seems like you're pushing back on the CFR, possibly driven by trying to pessimize the need for action. In the small Italian city of Nembro in Bergamo, 0.6% of their entire population has died in the last 12 days. That's 70 people in a small town of 11,000 — typically there are fewer than 70 deaths every six months. Now we're certainly _overestimating_ the denominator and still getting a number that's larger than t…
[Nembro] Age Distribution (E 2019)
0-9 years 1,018
10-19 years 1,191
20-29 years 1,179
30-39 years 1,192
40-49 years 1,640
50-59 years 1,850
60-69 years 1,465
70-79 years 1,181
80+ years 810
> In 2010, there were 119,551 people residing in Bergamo (in which the greater area has about 500 000 inhabitants), located in the province of Bergamo, Lombardia, of whom 46.6% were male and 53.4% were female. Minors (children ages 18 and younger) totalled 16.79 percent of the population compared to pensioners who number 23.61 percent. This compares with the Italian average of 17.88 percent (minors) and 20.29 percent (pensioners).https://www.citypopulation.de/en/italy/lombardia/bergamo/016...
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#93> For every confirmed case of COVID-19, there are likely another five to 10 people with undetected infections. I wish this was reflected more in the numbers being presented by various authorities. There is just too much confidence that confirmed cases are representative of the spread of the virus. This unknown denominator can change mortality rate, and severe case rate by orders of magnitude. Because of the dearth of…
There's going to be some very interesting population studies done post-pandemic to determine exactly what percentage of people had asymptomatic cases (and thus could have unknowingly been contributing to the spread).
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#94> For every confirmed case of COVID-19, there are likely another five to 10 people with undetected infections. I wish this was reflected more in the numbers being presented by various authorities. There is just too much confidence that confirmed cases are representative of the spread of the virus. This unknown denominator can change mortality rate, and severe case rate by orders of magnitude. Because of the dearth of…
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#95Introducing social distancing for the entire population comes at huge economic and social cost. It is more effective to follow these three simple measures: 1. Symptomatic cases stay at home for 7 days 2. All household members of symptomatic cases stay at home for 14 days 3. Social distancing for the over 70 population only https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/s... Social distancing of the entire…
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#96> For every confirmed case of COVID-19, there are likely another five to 10 people with undetected infections. I wish this was reflected more in the numbers being presented by various authorities. There is just too much confidence that confirmed cases are representative of the spread of the virus. This unknown denominator can change mortality rate, and severe case rate by orders of magnitude. Because of the dearth of…
> I'm fairly certain I've just recovered from COVID-19 given my symptoms, but can't get tested here in Colorado. I'm glad you're better. Please be careful going forward, though. You shouldn't assume you have an immunity unless you have a positive test result. Even with the strict pre-test screening that focus strictly on high probability patients, some locations are reporting very high (90%) negative test results fro…
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#97I really wish we had widespread testing, or even a test to see if you had COVID-19 in the past. Before we had all been so focused on this thing, my child's friend came back from China in December, and she had a upper respiratory illness with a fever. Then my whole family and I suffered under a low-grade fever and upper respiratory illness for a week or so in early January. I have no idea if it was COVID-19, but it is…
That's fear talking. Why would you want to be tested? What would you do differently? You had a virus, now you aren't sick any longer. You aren't making other people sick, either.
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the doctors on one of the press conferences (sorry, can't remember which one), said that she would prefer the term "physical distancing" as well for the same reason. She said that "social distancing" is a medical technical term that doesn't translate super well to the public.
> She said that "social distancing" is a medical technical term that doesn't translate super well to the public. Which is 100% the opposite of what I in my daily life observe: everyone, young & old, private & work, calls it social distancing. It addresses the issue better too, then the "proposed" physical distancing. When you pass people physically the (need and) possibility to keep that 2 meters is often impossible…
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#99> For every confirmed case of COVID-19, there are likely another five to 10 people with undetected infections. I wish this was reflected more in the numbers being presented by various authorities. There is just too much confidence that confirmed cases are representative of the spread of the virus. This unknown denominator can change mortality rate, and severe case rate by orders of magnitude. Because of the dearth of…
Two things to know: 1. The current test is designed for the scenario that someone shows up to medical provider with symptoms. Test answers the question: are the symptoms caused by COVID-19?, quite reliably (negligible false positives, low false negatives). 2. The current test won't produce terribly useful data in someone without symptoms (either before, or after the illness). This is why for example certain well-know…
Re: New research shows social distancing a must to beat Covid-19
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Deaths are all fine and good, but do you know statistics on hospitalizations for the under 50 crowd? Those are the resources that are important - even if the under 50 doesn't die from it but requires hospitalization that's both a resource that can't be used by the above 50's, as well as a possible death if there isn't a bed for them.
Per the CDC, 20% of hospitalizations are from people aged 20-44. Another 20% are 45-54: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-...
https://www.infoplease.com/us/comprehensive-census-data-stat...
In contrast you look at age >=65, they make up 12.4% of the population, 31% of cases, 45% of hospitalizations, 53% of ICU admissions, and 80% of deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm
It is kind of funny how desparate some boomers are to push "this virus affects you zoomers too!!!" angle, probably as a response to the "boomer remover" memes. Or just a weird boomer "well if we're going to die, we're gonna take you with us!" thing. I guess understandable but generally reflects the hateful ageist attitudes of boomers towards younger generations. The avocado toast mindset.
Yes, it's still lethal at 0.1% among younger populations. 0.1% doesn't mean nobody dies, it means very few die. This is a disease that primarily affects older populations. Some people are searching for a reason to hope it'll take their kids too.