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Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

#52

People use Zoom because it's really reliable, not because it's "seamless." I've been in the middle of nowhere in South Africa and could use a 3G connection on my phone to speak to people in Germany and the United States at the same time and it was reliable and useable.

I fully agree with this. Zoom has done a huge amount of work optimizing its transfer protocols to make it that reliable. Is it possible to offer same reliability using WebRTC in a browser when 50 participants are connected? I am not sure. Even https://whereby.com/ offers only up to 12 people on their highest plan. I think videoconferencing software like Remotehour serves a different purpose - seamlessly jump to a videocall without any software required to install until zoom releases a web client.

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

#54

In person, I have an open door policy with my students. If my door is open, it generally means I'm available to talk with them. Since all of our instruction has moved online, I'm adopting a virtual open door policy. I have a camera pointed at my door. If that door is open, students know I am there and if they announce themselves, I "let them in" by turning the camera around. When I'm in a meeting, I mute the audio an…

Frankly I'd be really worried about forgetting to mute the stream.

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

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post #31

> Sign on with Google Game over. Zoom requires no account to join a meeting and I just learned a couple of days ago it even works in the browser (toggle in the account settings of the one starting the meeting) I even plugged a Logitech c920 webcam in my Xbox One and did a meeting this way using Edge. Sadly the audio API seems unsupported in that Edge so I had to join the audio through another means. > VS Zoom > Don't…

Zoom in the browser is limited to 360p unfortunately :/

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've tried the following in the last few weeks (and several more, but I forget the names): jitsi, cisco jabber, cisco webex, google hangouts, google meet. Jitsi is definitely the best that I've tried. Jabber is OK, webex is a complete joke, the google ones are OK. The failure mode for a lot of these services seems to be crappy centralized routing infrastructure. I have way more than enough bandwidth to support like 1…

Jitsi is already peer-to-peer as far as I know.

On that point, is it actually? I've been messing around with p2p lately and everything is behind a Nat these days, it's almost impossible to do without a relay server which will probably be a dedicated relay server since most clients are going to be behind some sort of router.

And before anyone says hole punching, thats pretty much useless these days since almost all NATs are symmetric Nats now, the outgoing and incoming ports won't be matched the same even if the same socket is the same one. (if anyone is having success with this I'd love to know how they are doing it)

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

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post #31

> Sign on with Google Game over. Zoom requires no account to join a meeting and I just learned a couple of days ago it even works in the browser (toggle in the account settings of the one starting the meeting) I even plugged a Logitech c920 webcam in my Xbox One and did a meeting this way using Edge. Sadly the audio API seems unsupported in that Edge so I had to join the audio through another means. > VS Zoom > Don't…

> it even works in the browser

Only in Chrome, unfortunately, and it's severely limited at that. The most limiting factor is that you can only see one other participant at a time.

Additionally, Zoom's past attempt to prevent you from uninstalling part of their software is extra reason to only use the Chrome version, if any: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20407233

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

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There is Jitsi ( https://jitsi.org and https://meet.jit.si ) which does not need any login - this is really seamless.

I've never come across Jitsi before - wow, this is fully featured, with screen sharing that works , and even video background blurring! And all for free, amazing! My only question is how the company behind Jitsi plans to monetise things. This wasn't answered in their FAQ - anyone here know?

From jitsi.org/user-faq/

> We are fortunate that our friends at 8×8 fully fund the project. 8×8 uses Jitsi technology in products like Virtual Office. The open source community and meet.jit.si service help to make Jitsi better, which makes 8×8 products better, which helps to further fund Jitsi. This virtuous cycle has worked well in the past and should continue to for many years to come.

Re: Show HN: Remotehour – Allows people to talk to you anytime you’re available

#60

When using linux, everything is "more seamless" than Zoom. This company hates linux users, everything is broken and requires root user to even start.

That is odd, one of the reasons I really like zoom is how well it works under Linux. It seems to "just work", and the Linux client doesn't feel like an after-thought. FWIW, running Fedora 31 with KDE/Plasma. I really like not having a browser-based video conferencing app, but a Linux native one.
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