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Post by Robin_Message »

dang wrote: post #23

I once ran the numbers for HN and was surprised at how closely they matched this rule. Maybe I'll do it again. Edit: here are some estimates. We don't track enough to know about distinct users, so all we can do is guess. The number of accounts that have posted to HN this year, divided by the number of IP addresses that have accessed HN, is 0.008. How close that is to the '1% rule' depends on which is the bigger facto…

It seems like 8% is an overestimate because logged in users are more likely to be engaged and so to have more page views than a casual user.

Any way to divide logged in weekly sessions by all weekly sessions, or something like that?

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Post by bregma »

Using the term 'lurker' for consumers implies a pretty negative value judgement. If something like Wikipedia is not there to be consumed but only written (and I've long asserted that wikis are write-only media, but Wikipedia coupled with a good online search engine is not a typical wiki), what is the value of the 1%? Contributing to something nobody reads just becomes an act of masturbation.

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Post by koheripbal »

hyperman1 wrote: post #104

Same goes for bugs. 90 pct of your users doesn't even report downtime. A report on something non major is rare. I learned to listen to reported problems carefully, however weird.

Depends on the user. Some report every blip in their wifi.

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Post by test1235 »

alecco wrote: post #105
dang wrote: post #23

I once ran the numbers for HN and was surprised at how closely they matched this rule. Maybe I'll do it again. Edit: here are some estimates. We don't track enough to know about distinct users, so all we can do is guess. The number of accounts that have posted to HN this year, divided by the number of IP addresses that have accessed HN, is 0.008. How close that is to the '1% rule' depends on which is the bigger facto…

I used to submit more years ago, but it got ridiculous to get votes. I suspect there must be a LOT of brigading to get posts out of the /newest cesspool.

The internet feels very hostile nowadays - it seems like there's no end of people ready to take any comment out of context, and misconstrue to start an argument.

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Post by alok-g »

cycloptic wrote: post #5

I hope many of us internalized this early. It's not very accurate, but I try to think of this as meaning that on average, everything I post online is being read by a minimum of 99 people, multiplied by either the upvote count on the thread (for HN) or the number of active followers I have (for Twitter). It has helped me to always think this to myself before posting something. I probably am biased from the culture on…

A data point: A HN post of mine had ~29K unique viewers* with ~680 upvotes. Ratio comes to 43 unique visitors per upvote.

(* Per Github traffic stats.)

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Post by dhimes »

yingw787 wrote: post #21
cycloptic wrote: post #5

I hope many of us internalized this early. It's not very accurate, but I try to think of this as meaning that on average, everything I post online is being read by a minimum of 99 people, multiplied by either the upvote count on the thread (for HN) or the number of active followers I have (for Twitter). It has helped me to always think this to myself before posting something. I probably am biased from the culture on…

That's why I left Quora. I'm a really gullible person, and I was going to respond to somebody who posted something inflammatory, then I realized I had the option to just walk away. So I did. I remember something similar about companies too. When you have product market fit, customers will sear you when your product doesn't work. If you don't, you'll never hear from them again.

You're smart. Apparently 1% of us just can't keep our damn mouths shut.

Re: 1% rule

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Post by yingw787 »

dhimes wrote: post #126
yingw787 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I left Quora. I'm a really gullible person, and I was going to respond to somebody who posted something inflammatory, then I realized I had the option to just walk away. So I did. I remember something similar about companies too. When you have product market fit, customers will sear you when your product doesn't work. If you don't, you'll never hear from them again.

You're smart. Apparently 1% of us just can't keep our damn mouths shut.

I didn't smarten up until I did! Still love the HN community :)

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Post by kuu »

summerdown2 wrote: post #119

My prediction: this will be the one post where the 1% rule doesn't apply, as a much larger number will be spurred into action by the topic in question - and end up actually saying something.

It's funny, because in the list of comments, the comment above yours says he's doing exactly that :)

Re: 1% rule

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Post by yingw787 »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #108
yingw787 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I left Quora. I'm a really gullible person, and I was going to respond to somebody who posted something inflammatory, then I realized I had the option to just walk away. So I did. I remember something similar about companies too. When you have product market fit, customers will sear you when your product doesn't work. If you don't, you'll never hear from them again.

Yes but if everybody does that, the only thing that will remain in the history will be unchallenged inflammatory claims. Which will lead most people passing by to consider that the topic is mostly driven from the point of view of this minority. This is why we hear a lot about the SJW, anti-vax, the flat earther and so on these days: they make a lot of noise online, even if IRL we never see them because there are so f…

People generally don't say inflammatory things because they're inherently evil. They're scared, or mad, or have things going on in their life. Arguing online won't change that. Conversely, fixing those things may make trolling less appealing.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/632474-i-have-a-foreboding-...

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