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Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by wyclif »

mseidl wrote: post #116
tunesmith wrote: post #13

My wife made a joke about a bidet a few years ago, so also as a joke I bought us one for her birthday. The $60 attachment kind where you just plumb in a splitter from the source that fills the toilet tank. It was a hit, so we bought one for family friends for a birthday - high hilarity as we heard the reports from their kids - and then more for our extended family at Christmas. Shocked reactions around the Christmas…

I've been to Japan 3 times now and the toilets are amazing. You can have things like motorized up/down seat + cover. Water heater, seat heater, drying. And, something I never tried but there is also a music thing to cover up the sounds too.

Some of the Google campuses have those Japanese toilets installed.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by hmcdona1 »

ebg13 wrote: post #240
kyleomalley wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even just a few seconds running normal pressure bidet is extremely effective. Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left. Don't forget your skin doesn't want poo on it and gravity is also actively working against anything sticking.

> Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left. Personal experience does not agree with you. But I'm glad that it works well for someone.

Honestly, maybe you aren't getting enough fiber. I take a psyllium husk pill a few times a week. If I take one daily I could literally get away with zero wipes some days if I wanted...

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by visarga »

rconti wrote: post #186
peatmoss wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seattle checking in. Just used a questionably accurate meat thermometer to check the water coming out of our tap. It looks to be about 6C / 42F. Brisk!

How about the initial water after leaving the taps closed for, say, 20 minutes? :)

I own a bidet which costed about $400 which has a water heater, warm air ventilator, seat warmer, human presence sensor and even a remote control you can put on your wall. It's just a plastic seat I mounted myself on the old toilet.

Summer or winter it's always great to use it.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by visarga »

dmix wrote: post #210
nordsieck wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I thought the goal was to be more hygienic. I can see this maybe working if you live by yourself but anything beyond that is: no thanks. I'm not trying to dissuade you from holding that opinion, just pointing out that there are many, many people who regularly use cloth diapers for newborns. While many people choose not to use them, I don't think most people consider them a less sanitary option.

True, I guess I just live in a small place and the thought of having to maintain a shitty rag basket next to the toilet isn't very appealing. But I probably shouldn't talk without experience in either (bidets included).

You don't have to. If you use an electronic bidet, while it's true that drying is not so efficient, if you sit a couple of extra minutes on it you will get up dry.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by visarga »

stinos wrote: post #133
ebg13 wrote: post #77

Every time I hear someone say that they stopped using toilet paper after switching to a bidet, I have some serious questions. Because I've used bidets and washlets of all kinds, and I've never met one that actually cleaned fully without also rubbing/wiping. So, ok, using wet paper can get you much cleaner and is gentler than dry paper, but blasting wet feces droplets all over the place with a jet spray alone isn't so…

blasting wet feces droplets all over the place This is the only thing I don't get about bidets. Unless I'm missing something it's like unavoidable to get droplets on your hand/spreayer for the manual types? I personally wouldn't really care, but I just wonder why not more people make a fuzz about this. Again, maybe I'm missing something.

Electronic bidets have a self-washing, moving wash head. You don't use your hands.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by hombre_fatal »

pengaru wrote: post #225

I don't get it. At home I just step into the tub and wash my butthole with soap and water. Dry with a towel no different than having taken a shower, then get on with my life all nice and fresh down there. No need for TP or more consumer garbage to maintain and wear out that doesn't even clean as effectively as proper bathing w/soap and hands.

If that's how you like to do it, fine.

But is it really necessary to act like everyone else are the weird ones for not giving their anus a sponge-bath in the bath tub every time they shit?

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by _ZeD_ »

BalinKing wrote: post #200
ineedasername wrote: post #185

Here's a quick mental experiment: You accidentally put your hand in poop. Do you a) wash it off? or b) take a piece of paper and rub it off? If you answer "a", then you've just admitted the bidet is superior.

Honestly? I'd probably get most off whatever dirty substance is on my hands with a paper towel, etc. and then wash with soap and water. (And a bidet doesn't include the soap part, so the comparison doesn't work anyway.)

>>> And a bidet doesn't include the soap part

wait, what? please, do yourself a favor and use soap (and your hand) with a bidet

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by pengaru »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #256
pengaru wrote: post #225

I don't get it. At home I just step into the tub and wash my butthole with soap and water. Dry with a towel no different than having taken a shower, then get on with my life all nice and fresh down there. No need for TP or more consumer garbage to maintain and wear out that doesn't even clean as effectively as proper bathing w/soap and hands.

If that's how you like to do it, fine. But is it really necessary to act like everyone else are the weird ones for not giving their anus a sponge-bath in the bath tub every time they shit?

> But is it really necessary to act like everyone else are the weird ones for not giving their anus a sponge-bath in the bath tub every time they shit?

Who said anything about using a sponge?

My comment wasn't directed at "everyone else", only those using bidets at home.

Elsewhere in this thread there are numerous comments from people debating ways to dry after using the bidet, complexities surrounding dirty towels or useless wet TP which then leaves pulpy clumps on your butthole and hair. I know the problems, I've used bidets, it's kind of awful.

Why on earth would you subject yourself to this at your own home where you're in control?

At the office or in a guest bathroom, ok, I get it. I've used the Japense style bidet seat attachments at the Googleplex, and think that's a neat thing for an employer to do for employees and makes sense as an improvement in that circumstance, but it's an unnecessary compromise at home.

You presumably have proper bathing facilities. Instead of tapping into your toilet water line for some inferior fixed soap-less water splashy splash onto your butthole awkwardly sitting over the toilet, just get a handheld sprayer for your tub/shower and do it well.

It's way better, and you can properly dry off with a bath towel leaving it clean enough for reuse. Nobody should ever have to exit their own damn bathroom with a dirty bottom.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by ornornor »

tunesmith wrote: post #13

My wife made a joke about a bidet a few years ago, so also as a joke I bought us one for her birthday. The $60 attachment kind where you just plumb in a splitter from the source that fills the toilet tank. It was a hit, so we bought one for family friends for a birthday - high hilarity as we heard the reports from their kids - and then more for our extended family at Christmas. Shocked reactions around the Christmas…

Serious question: we are very soon running out of toilet paper. Because of the panic from the virus, our nearby stores have all been out of toilet papers for a couple of weeks now and we've been unable to restock so far, so it was a golden opportunity for me to bring back up the idea to try out a bidet (SO is reticent but it beats having no toilet paper to wipe with)

My problem is that I don't know how to "hang" the handle when it's not in use. The bathroom is all tile from floor to ceiling and we're tenants so we can't drill to hang an attachment. I've also seen systems that hook over the tank's wall, but our toilet has the tank in the wall (it's a German style toilet for those who know what I mean: tank in the wall and toilet seat hanging from the wall rather than the floor)

I'm also not convinced with the little arms that install under the seat which reaches out when water flows, because I'm very concerned about back splashing on it when using the toilet and being unable to thoroughly clean the arm. This would spray soiled water where we don't want it.

I'm hoping someone in a similar situation figured something out: what system do you use?

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Post by capableweb »

ebg13 wrote: post #242
capableweb wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bleach? I would hope not. This is spraying your anus, which you should avoid using soaps (or holy shit, bleach?) and only use water or specific soaps. Same with your penis, which I hope you're not washing with regular soap (or bleach)

The bleach is for the sprayer not the sprayee.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying!
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