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Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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I wonder what the handbook for the billions of people in hundreds of countries without adequate health care infrastructure is. Our data points so far has been from mostly dismal first world responses with capability to report skewed statistics due to system under testing. But the reality is, most of the world will respond to this outbreak the same way they did the Spanish Flu. It would be interesting to see outcome o…

I'm terrified for how this may play out in Venezuela.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Philanthropy is philanthropy, and i don't see anything wrong with appreciating when someone does something good.

I think we all know why he's getting downvoted but it's against the rules to talk about it.

It’s not that it’s against the rules. It’s just that you’ll be downvoted by those that hate billionaires and that will impact your ability to comment. I’m glad I accumulated enough karma from before HN became like this that I can handle losing some karma to say what others have been silenced from saying by downvoters.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/07/29/against-against-billio...

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#35
post #4

I'm glad info from China is filtering over onto the rest of the internet. So much vital information, especially about how to keep safe as an individual, is only available on WeChat in Mandarin.

What kind of info? Would love to know more.

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we all know why he's getting downvoted but it's against the rules to talk about it.

It’s not that it’s against the rules. It’s just that you’ll be downvoted by those that hate billionaires and that will impact your ability to comment. I’m glad I accumulated enough karma from before HN became like this that I can handle losing some karma to say what others have been silenced from saying by downvoters. https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/07/29/against-against-billio...

You can see what HN is right here

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22624606

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

#37

I just tried to promote this on Twitter. They halted my ad.

> An update on our continuity strategy during COVID-19 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/An-update...

Very interesting how the health care guidelines of the dutch RIVM would probably at various points in time have been against the twitter policy.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

#38

I would welcome a handbook like this for individual or family use at home if hospitals become overwelmed and can no longer accommodate even seriously ill patients. The featured handbook looks very useful, but it's written for medical professionals in a hospital setting. I'm thinking about a handbook with instructions on how to do life critical procedures as best as possible with the resources one might have at home .…

as best as possible with the resources one might have at home.

Previous comment by me along those lines:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22595343

I skimmed the home care thing posted by someone else. It said to use paper towels instead of towels to dry your hands.

I almost never use towels to dry my hands. If you use paper towels, flush them down the toilet. (Assuming it won't be a plumbing problem. I can't do this currently because I live in a hundred year old building and my lease forbids it because the plumbing can't handle it.)

But you can also just let your hands air dry. You don't have to dry them at all.

From what I gather, they resort to ventilators with Coronavirus not due to paralysis of the lungs but due to inflammation and pneumonia (aka fluid in the lungs).

Here are some ventilator substitutes in such cases:

If you have fluid in your lungs and can't adequately clear it doing lung clearance in the shower, sleep propped up. A recliner is one option or prop yourself up on pillows against the headboard.

If you are having breathing issues, absolutely do not lay flat on your back. It can cause half your lung surface to be blocked by fluid and this is a good way to basically drown. Instead, lay on your side or prop yourself up. It will reduce the amount of lung surface blocked by fluid.

Ideally, have some caffeine, fluids and salt to help open up the airways and support mucus production and then go do lung clearance before trying to sleep. Then lay down on your side or prop yourself up somehow.

(Yes, I'm aware: Ideally, you should be hospitalized at that point. I didn't want my child hospitalized when he was an infant and had pneumonia, so I laid him on my chest and slept sitting up for three nights after he started antibiotics so he could breathe. I've got an incurable lung condition. I routinely deal with fluid in my lungs without seeing a doctor. It can be done.)

Obviously, ideally, see a doctor and all that. I'm only leaving this comment because the medical system is overwhelmed and that's not always going to be an option. There are going to be people in this crisis who can get info off the internet or have basically nothing because there aren't enough doctors, ventilators, etc to go around.

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

#39
Why does everyone want to reduce the fever with pills?

The immune system works best when there is a fever and if you suppress it you are just trading long term complications for short term relief. In the Covid-19 case it would IMO be much better to drink lots of fluids and just let the fever run its course.

I'm not a doctor so you shouldn't listen to me, listen to the awesome Dr Campbell instead, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJqSdmNNwW4

Re: Handbook of Covid-19 Prevention and Treatment from Hospital with 0% fatality [pdf]

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There's a crowdsourced handbook here, please contribute: ToC: https://coronavirustechhandbook.com/ Doctors: https://coronavirustechhandbook.com/doctors Self-care: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DioVg-8nu25up0JMdd-w3AsJ...

Also EMCrit’s IBCC project has a chapter on COVID: https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/

And it’s a recurring subject on their podcast: https://emcrit.org/

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