Tokyo High Court slashes damages to Fukushima nuclear disaster evacuees

Post by morpheuskafka » Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:44 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

pgt wrote: post #4

I used to be pro-nuclear, but here in South Africa, we can't even keep our coal plants running - nevermind nuclear. Last week a 930MW nuclear turbine at Koeberg went down because the cooling pump filters had not been cleaned in years and was filled with fish and jellyfish. Small-scale, independent solar producers and perhaps geothermal or CSP (molten salt) seem to be the only strategies that can work. There will alwa…

> There will always be corruption, war and fraud. To be pro-nuclear, you have to guarantee political stability for 100+ years, and I don't think many places could guarantee that. Indeed. This is the crux of it. Nuclear run by the US military? Very safe. Nuclear (as a power source, not talking munitions) run by the rest of the world as a commercial operation? Fraught with peril. I'm not anti-nuclear; I'm anti-humans-r…

Post by toomuchtodo » Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:45 PM UTC

morpheuskafka wrote: post #21

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There will always be corruption, war and fraud. To be pro-nuclear, you have to guarantee political stability for 100+ years, and I don't think many places could guarantee that. Indeed. This is the crux of it. Nuclear run by the US military? Very safe. Nuclear (as a power source, not talking munitions) run by the rest of the world as a commercial operation? Fraught with peril. I'm not anti-nuclear; I'm anti-humans-r…

So you trust the military (which wouldn't do this directly anyway, they would just contract to a for-profit company), an institute which is purpose-built to kill other humans on the orders of the state, over a private company that merely seeks to turn a profit? Militarism has always been about profit and greed, more so than any company. And unlike companies, they are basically above the law.

Post by yongjik » Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:50 PM UTC

pgt wrote: post #4

I used to be pro-nuclear, but here in South Africa, we can't even keep our coal plants running - nevermind nuclear. Last week a 930MW nuclear turbine at Koeberg went down because the cooling pump filters had not been cleaned in years and was filled with fish and jellyfish. Small-scale, independent solar producers and perhaps geothermal or CSP (molten salt) seem to be the only strategies that can work. There will alwa…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:51 PM UTC

bumby wrote: post #24

toomuchtodo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. US Navy nuclear engineers are military service members, not contractors, and are therefore part of the chain of command. There are consequences for failing to follow protocol. https://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/NNPTC/

I see you've never personally experienced the US military... Kidding aside, while many service members do uphold their oath honorably, there's plenty of non-compliance and outright malfeasance without accountability. And to the grandparent, the military does run reactors outside of ships (but typically for research as far as I know)

Post by anigbrowl » Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:53 PM UTC