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Re: Mac mini

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I never understand this argument. If you "want" a mid-level "box with slots", that's going to be bigger anyway.

I don't think that's the point: if you can ship 16" MacBook Pros with dedicated GPU you could do the same with MacMini; why don't you give me such option? ("you" stands for "Apple" here btw)

desktop grade cpus and gpus have very different thermal characteristics. it quite impossible to have silent + desktop cpu + desktop gpu + very small space.

Re: Mac mini

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Intel NUCs are even better for home server use cases. Similar form factor, much cheaper, and you can put your own memory and storage in them. Just built my own last week and it idles at 5W, it's great.

There is no Mac OS X and Apple's service/warranty. Also if you try to match the boxes spec by spec; the Mini are usually not that much more.

Why would you want to run macOS on a server (no matter that it is just home server)?

The Intel NUCs are excelent little machines. Some of them support Intel AMT, so you can have them completely headless in some cabinet.

Re: Mac mini

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So much naysaying here. The Mac Minis are excellent for certain use cases (like a home server) and they last forever. Great that Apple is updating them regularly.

They are the best entertainment center machines.... the full Internet experience from your couch using a wireless mouse and keyboard.

Re: Mac mini

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What the heck does this mean? "Up to 7.8X faster than 16GB"

It means that some typical processes are run entirely in RAM rather than having to swap to disk. Specifically, the tests they used were common image manipulations (rotations and so forth) in Photoshop.

Re: Mac mini

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Still no real GPU. It's the reason I went back to a MacBook. What drew me in is the desktop class i7. At the time the Mini outperformed all other Macs in benchmarks, and it is noticeable and fast during compile times etc. Once you connect a 4k Screen (or even more screens), an eGPU becomes a must have. The integrated one just can't do smooth UI rendering. For example typing in IntelliJ always felt laggy, because it t…

The performance depends very greatly on the resolution you run the 4K screen at. If you're using a non-evenly scaled resolution (i.e. not exactly 1x or 2x rendering) it's not gonna be fantastic. Running at 'default' 2x my 2018 runs 2x 24" 4Ks without issue - the problem most people have I think is that they buy much larger displays and then want to use a higher rendered resolution, which is where the iGPU will strugg…

Just chiming in here and endorsing the eGPU add-on to resolve 4k monitor performance for non-standard resolutions / pixel density. Without it things get pretty chunky. With it, smooth as butter.

Re: Mac mini

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The Mac Minis are still expensive and underwhelming (even when maxed out) when compared with the top of the range NUCs with even AMD GPUs. The Skull and Ghost Canyon NUCs are great for Linux CIs or building large projects or I could even go far to either Hackintosh a few NUCs to surpass the need to buy a Mac Mini anyway for next 5 years. Thanks, but I would skip this Mac Mini and go for the latest maxed out NUC inste…

Are Hackintosh a practical reality? (genuine question)

YMMV, but for my tower, after getting over the initial hump of getting macOS installed, it’s less trouble than Linux is.

No matter the distro, under Linux it feels like I’m always fighting weirdness with X11/Wayland/GPU drivers and there’s more rough edges than I can count. It’s death by a thousand cuts. It has massive potential to be great, but it’s just not.

By contrast once your hackintosh is working properly, that’s pretty much it… the fight is over and you can just use your machine. If you set it up right, minor updates are uneventful and the only real maintenance that’s required comes with major OS releases every year or so, but that can be delayed for a long time if you’re not the type to keep pace with OS updates.

That said it is a bit of a technical endeavor, so be prepared for that.

Re: Mac mini

#127

Still no real GPU. It's the reason I went back to a MacBook. What drew me in is the desktop class i7. At the time the Mini outperformed all other Macs in benchmarks, and it is noticeable and fast during compile times etc. Once you connect a 4k Screen (or even more screens), an eGPU becomes a must have. The integrated one just can't do smooth UI rendering. For example typing in IntelliJ always felt laggy, because it t…

> Still no real GPU. What is a 'real' GPU? Why is this one not 'real'? If it can be used to run a rendering API and it outputs graphics fast enough to use the computer with a realistic number of monitors then it's a real GPU.

Intel GPUs generate artefacts in FCPX and Motion 5 under heavier load.

Re: Mac mini

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Considering how Apple prices its products, $100 for 10 Gigabit Ethernet seems very cheap. Actually it is cheaper than most PCI-e cards.

Not really - you can have single port Intel X520-based pcie-e card for $40. Or bundled with 3m DAC cable for $60.

For $100, you are in dual port cards territory.

Re: Mac mini

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Considering how Apple prices its products, $100 for 10 Gigabit Ethernet seems very cheap. Actually it is cheaper than most PCI-e cards.

Yes, I saw that too, it's using an AQC107 (because it's supporting 2.5 and 5) and the card is 100 bucks https://camelcamelcamel.com/Gigabit-Ethernet-Express-Network... pretty steadily and so Apple only asking for the same price is indeed surprising.

Re: Mac mini

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Only up to 6-core 8th generation CPUs, and it looks like the base 6-core SKU is the i5-8500, which doesn’t have Hyperthreading. Ouch. It’s such a shame that’s the best Intel can do in that thermal envelope. AMD is about to ship Ryzen 4000 mobile chips with lower TDP, great integrated graphics, higher clock speeds and more cores. It would have worked fine in the Mac mini. Imagine how good the desktop APUs will be when…

That i5 is a 65W desktop part, not a mobile part. It is faster than the i7 9750H of the 16 inch macbook pro.

I'm highly doubtful most people here have workloads that it wouldn't be able to handle.

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