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Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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I have no way to supply the bidet with water, since the faucet is on the other side if the room and used for the laundry machine. I know splitters exist. But running a hose across the room is impractical... Water collector for the toilet is build into the wall...

I had to run a new electrical outlet for mine; plumbing a new line for it wouldn’t have been any more difficult.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#32
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I like the concept but I admit to not really understanding how they work in practice. For the in-toilet ones, how do you aim them? Just scooting around? They don't dribble poop-water down your cheeks? The handheld ones just baffle me. How do you get them in place and spread your cheeks at the same time? I feel like I'm going to need a stack of wet-wipes and a disposable towel the first time I actually use a bidet.

You'll figure it out, and you'll kick yourself for not having done it sooner. It's all much easier than you're imagining. I had the same concerns, and am a complete convert now.

There will be sheaves and sheaves of people using this thing incorrectly and in mind-boggling hilarious ways, because they haven't figured it out. I have traveled extensively in Japan, and encountered the Toto toilet in practically every hotel. I have never used this feature, was and am too embarrassed to ask. Somehow this quote comes to mind:

> Death is a mystery, and burial is a secret.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#33
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Doesn't the bidet take its water supply from the toilet's own valve? That's how I'd do it, just add a tap to the outlet of the valve ( https://i.imgur.com/Or7mhpW.png ). No need to turn off your home water supply to install it, either.

I edited a second after you submitted. No, everything is built into the wall. You have to destroy it to get to the pipes. Not even a "door" or some tile to open. It's all sealed away.

I have seen this design mainly in public toilets and in a few "modern" homes. Makes for easier to clean toilet area. But I also had similar questions as sibling comments are making. As someone who has had to fix my fair share of flushing issues I had my doubts about such a design.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#34

I love my Hello Tushy. Combine that with one of those Charmin Forever Rolls and you will have a roll that lasts months. While people are out fighting for TP, I rinse myself and use two or three pieces to dry off and that’s it. Nice and clean!

I like the concept but I admit to not really understanding how they work in practice. For the in-toilet ones, how do you aim them? Just scooting around? They don't dribble poop-water down your cheeks? The handheld ones just baffle me. How do you get them in place and spread your cheeks at the same time? I feel like I'm going to need a stack of wet-wipes and a disposable towel the first time I actually use a bidet.

Assuming you have a shower with the usual detachable shower head, you could always test the experience in there.

Set the shower to the narrow/high pressure flow, and reduce the water supply so it's less "massage" and more like "watering the garden".

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#35
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I've lived in Vietnam for the last 4 years and got used to the 'bum gun' as we call them. It is awesome. I came back to the US late January for a meeting in SF. I was staying at my friends house and lamenting the missing gun. My friends were refusing to install one because they were afraid that their two year old would use it to soak the entire bathroom. I started checking Amazon anyway... once everyone started stock…

I've been using a portable, battery-powered bidet (Toto brand) for years. The first vacation that I took to Japan sold me on them nearly instantly, but I didn't want to go through with installing them once I got home. This is a good compromise.

I think I'd prefer to use a bum gun over the whole toilet seat thing. You can really move the bum gun around more easily than you can your body and it is super easy to wipe it down to clean it.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#38

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I edited a second after you submitted. No, everything is built into the wall. You have to destroy it to get to the pipes. Not even a "door" or some tile to open. It's all sealed away.

I have seen this design mainly in public toilets and in a few "modern" homes. Makes for easier to clean toilet area. But I also had similar questions as sibling comments are making. As someone who has had to fix my fair share of flushing issues I had my doubts about such a design.

I have this type of toilet, in a very modern apartment. It's exactly as you say, more common in modern public places like airports and new offices.

In my case, there's a 2m wide, ~70cm deep space behind the bathroom, where the water + heating + sewage + ventilation pipes for the whole building are located. There's a 40cm access panel in my wall to get to it.

Adding a bidet thing would require drilling a hole through the wall.

A previous apartment had a similar toilet, but the tank etc was just hidden behind wooden panelling. That would be much easier to modify.

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Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

#39
post #5

I have no way to supply the bidet with water, since the faucet is on the other side if the room and used for the laundry machine. I know splitters exist. But running a hose across the room is impractical... Water collector for the toilet is build into the wall...

I had to run a new electrical outlet for mine; plumbing a new line for it wouldn’t have been any more difficult.

This is the one issue that's stopped me.

Most these attachments connect to the toilet's water supply, which is fine, except most toilet water supplies only provide cold (i.e. whatever the ambient water temperature happens to be) water which to me, is far from ideal in a bidet (it's fine for normal use though).

Running hot water there is a significant undertaking if done correctly, so most options come with a small reservoir to heat up water from the regular toilet supply.

That heat isn't magical, it needs energy from somewhere meaning you need to run power there someway.

There are dangerous improvised solutions like running a power cable yourself. There's additional consideration electricians put in when installing power in restrooms due to all the water and grounding dangers from metal plumbing. Running cables neglects all that thought and reintroduces an electrocution hazard if not handled very carefully.

That leaves me with battery options which I haven't looked to much into but I find that's likely not ideal to swap batteries around all the time. If it can operate off something like a deep cycle marine battery (which seems appropriate), then it might be viable.

Re: Has the bidet's time in North America finally arrived?

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I always wanted one. My wife found one about a year ago, one that was designed for in-home hospice care and has a good water pressure. It is one of those toilet attachments. She wouldn't use it normally, but because we have it, she's not really worried about the TP shortage.
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