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Re: New MacBook Air

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Post by squiggleblaz »

sunir wrote: post #35
dev_tty01 wrote: post #27

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We all (most of us anyway) wanted them to go back to the scissor design. Are we going to now complain that they did what the community has been begging them to do? Was butterfly a mistake? Yes. Were they slow to correct the issue? Yes. Now that they fixed it we should be happy about it. As far as talking about it being amazing, its called marketing spin. This is how it works. However, those two sentences do not say a…

They deserve flak and they are getting it. It doesn’t have to be logical. It is emotional. They also created an emotional brand. Somehow I think Apple can handle it. Anyone wasting energy complaining is only doing so because they are waiting to buy again. It makes as much sense defending them as it does yelling at them about a keyboard.

I dunno, I used to buy Apples because they had great hardware for a fair price (premium, sure, but if you're in the market for a premium machine...), but my last two machines have been a Dell and a Surface. It's different trade offs, but '\_o_/` I was never wedded to their operating system anyway.

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Post by thiht »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #143
tomp wrote: post #134

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Except - 16GB RAM Can you even run Eclipse with just 16GB?!

Exactly. I'm deciding between 32GB or even 64Gb, just to be on the safe side. Because nowadays you're running Slack, Spotify, several messengers, Firefox, Chrome, IntelliJ, Docker and Kubernetes on your local machine.

I have 8GB on my work laptop with almost all of this (except Kubernetes, but I fail to understand why you would need a local Kubernetes) and it's fine, I usually have 2GB free memory.

Don't exagerate your memory requirements, you would be more than fine with 16GB.

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Post by johnmarcus »

I just switched to Linux on an lightly used LG gram after being on Mac for 10 years. $1300, 1TB nvme, 24gb ram, 15" edgeless screen, weighs less than 3lbs, and charger is lighter. Also has a full touch screen. Do I miss retina display? Yes, although I get just as much on screen since it's 15". Would I go back for 2x the price? No way.

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Post by gregkerzhner »

throwaway123x2 wrote: post #212

Anybody know what's the cheapest setup you could get away with for iOS/xcode development? Would it be a (used) Macbook Air, or can you not really run xcode effectively on them?

I developed my first few iOS apps on a 2013 MacBook Air with 4 gigs of ram. On larger projects (especially Swift) the builds could be a bit slow and the syntax highlighting would be delayed, but overall it was totally manageable. When I upgraded to a 16gig Mac book pro, I thought it would be a game changer to speed up the builds. To my surprise, they weren't really that much faster. It seems like the slowness of XCode and Swift isn't constrained by resources - its just slow no matter how much power you throw at it. So I would say for getting into iOS and Xcode development these new Macbook Airs would be more than enough and a used older Air would suffice.

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Post by mcpeepants »

qayxc wrote: post #197
mcpeepants wrote: post #137

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docker on mac does indeed leverage a VM as the docker host, since a Linux kernel is required

To my understanding Docker doesn't do hardware virtualisation and doesn't run indiviual VMs per container instance, though, or does it?

it does not, but there is still some overhead running a single linux VM for the docker host on macOS

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Post by FpUser »

api wrote: post #50
snemvalts wrote: post #37

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i think most people prefer to not sell their souls for advertising when it comes to their desktop environments.

Yeah, the presence of ads on anything I've paid for instantly classifies it as "junk." Windows is now junk.

I am curious where do you people see ads. I do not have any on my windows computers. All hold latest official updates.

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Post by dijit »

enraged_camel wrote: post #190
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #139

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Because wasting energy on a 4 GHz base clock is completely pointless (and so is your criticism) if you can adjust frequency as needed. 99% of the time 1GHz is sufficient. It’s only when you launch the browser that a faster CPU is useful, not when you’re reading through a website

The problem is that it ramps up by 250 Mhz increments, over a period of several seconds, and that can be extremely noticeable in some workflows. I went from an 6700HQ (2.6 Ghz base) to a 10710U (1.1 Ghz base) and the difference is definitely there, and it's jarring enough to the point where I kind of regret it. It feels like a huge step backwards, despite the latter CPU being four generations ahead.

> The problem is that it ramps up by 250 Mhz increments

Isn't this completely down to the cpu frequency governor in the OS?

My impression was that this "stepping" is customisable, at least in linux, I regularly step my CPU manually even.

I'm not sure what Apple has here, but maybe it's not what you expect.

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Post by henrikeh »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #236
Silhouette wrote: post #215

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Which is kind of horrifying, if you stop and think about it. You're wondering whether you need another 32G of RAM to run a basic working environment, a glorified text editor, and some communications software. I used a BBC that could do that in 32K of RAM in the 1980s! Obviously I'm not really suggesting the functionality today is equivalent, but the idea that ultimately you're meeting the same basic needs yet it now…

Its certainly amazing how much memory consumption has grown. I like to think of it in terms of economics, we could never write today's software using 80s methods. Slack in assembler? Impossible. Kubernetes in C++? Maybe, but there will be security holes, and Go is just more productive. Developers are expensive, very expensive.

I’m not well-versed at all in Go and Kubernetes? Isn’t the large RAM usage from the usage of containers? Is Go a memory-hog?

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Post by Tepix »

throwaway123x2 wrote: post #212

Anybody know what's the cheapest setup you could get away with for iOS/xcode development? Would it be a (used) Macbook Air, or can you not really run xcode effectively on them?

A hackintosh... if you can live with being a dirty criminal /s

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Post by GrumpyNl »

climb_stealth wrote: post #182

After using the latest Macbook Pro 13" for over a year I have recently had my 2015 Macbook Pro 13" repaired. Both are max specs. It was a $600 bill, but it has been so worth it. The keyboard just works, it doesn't run hot and the fan doesn't blast under the slightest load, the performance is much better, the battery lasts longer and the external screen + keyboard and mouse are detected every single time without havin…

For that price i buy a descent laptop.
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