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New iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support

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Post by longtermd »

Someone1234 wrote: post #215

The front facing camera is seriously neglected. They keep on adding more powerful/fancy cameras to the rear that people likely under-use in the common case, while the front camera that is commonly used for work, video conferencing, selfies, etc remains on the wrong edge and is under-powered. It is almost farcical with the new keyboard setting the top to the non-camera edge. The front facing camera should be the premi…

The front facing camera is also massively neglected for the MacBook Pro, which I use all the time (!) for video conferencing.

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Post by TravelPiglet »

izacus wrote: post #166
TravelPiglet wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What most people use a computer for these days are not what we use a computer for. Most people probably require little except a phone for most computing needs. * Getting a convenient dock and better physical keyboard. * Surfing on an iPad is probably a lot better and fast experience than a similarly priced computer. * A lot of dedicated apps for most tasks people need. (Youtube, Spotify, Netflix, etc) * People use em…

> What most people use a computer for these days are not what we use a computer for. Most people probably require little except a phone for most computing needs. Most people also don't buy such costly computers, so I'm not sure why do you think a hugely expensive iPad "PRO" would be something meant for "most" people.

People buy really expensive iPhones as well. My point wasn’t that the iPad Pro is for most people. Just that the features it and the future regular iPad supports are enough for most of the computing needs.

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Post by fmajid »

45ure wrote: post #203
fmajid wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does Apple have against the Escape key? That's a deal-breaker right there.

I am always baffled, when the keyboard + iPad issue is brought up, perhaps my use-case is unique. I use a Apple A1314 Keyboard, which has an ESC key, it is Bluetooth enabled with decent key travel, and cheap to acquire. It is just a matter of popping the iPad Pro 10.5 (2017) on an after market stand and/or propping it atop a stack of books if required, it is a good solution and works well, even for a touch-typist lik…

I use the Magic Keyboard myself, or the Kanex MultiSync https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ2TKIR/ that has support for 3 devices and keyboard backlighting. What I really want is a proper mechanical keyboard with good BT support, hopefully the Keychron K6 I have on order will be the ticket.

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Post by emsy »

Someone1234 wrote: post #198
burgerquizz wrote: post #186

Apple, please make the ipadOS eco system developer friendly. I'd buy it instantly. If Visual Studio Code was available there, that'd be amazing. There is some projects[1] going on but using some non-viable workaround [1] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/70764

This is a device that doesn't support other browser rendering engines or even toy compilers, long way to go before something like VSCode could be possible, a product that let's you trivially slipstream in any renderer/script engine/compiler you want at a single click. Plus would it really be an "iPad" with you sacrifice the whole security model to allow debugging?

> Plus would it really be an "iPad" with you sacrifice the whole security model to allow debugging?

The security model being that you need to be attached to a Mac to allow debugging? Other than that I'm totally with you. The ipad is far away from being a frictionless, general computation device.

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Post by kalleboo »

cptskippy wrote: post #214
Shivetya wrote: post #96

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As pointed out by another, it is also a stand. Now I expect the mechanical work has to be pretty superb to guarantee it can keep the iPad at the angle you choose. I cannot wait for a tear down of the stand. I am a bit confused by the usb-c port for pass through charging. I would have thought a great opportunity would be to have the stand be able to wireless charge the iPad while in use but I expect the power requirem…

> I am a bit confused by the usb-c port for pass through charging. I would have thought a great opportunity would be to have the stand be able to wireless charge the iPad while in use but I expect the power requirements of an iPad in use would exceed current standards. Looking at the published photos, there doesn't appear to be a mechanical interface along the edge of the ipad to the stand. https://www.apple.com/shop…

On the previous iPad Pro keyboard page, they had this text: "The Smart Connector transfers both data and power between iPad Pro and the Smart Keyboard Folio — no batteries or charging required"

It's the same connector since the new one is backwards compatible with the old iPad Pro.

If you google "iPad Smart Connector pinout" you find previous discussion/speculation on the protocol

edit: the announcement specifically says the stand supports "pass-through charging, keeping the USB-C port on iPad Pro free for accessories including external drives and displays". So the pogo pins only have to have enough data bandwidth to send keystrokes, the stand won't give you USB 3 data

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Post by fmajid »

wlesieutre wrote: post #208
fmajid wrote: post #128

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What does Apple have against the Escape key? That's a deal-breaker right there.

iPadOS 13.4 will let you remap the useless capslock key to esc: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/02/06/ipados-13-4-hardwar...

I prefer to remap it to Control_L, that's where I have it in muscle memory. But I also need a Meta key for Emacs.

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Post by disease »

luigi23 wrote: post #8

Any ideas what you could develop with new lidar scanner?

I wonder if you could combine the camera data with the lidar to make detailed real estate virtual walk-throughs.

Also, just as the Kinect allowed for some makeshift motion capture / animation, maybe the lidar could allow for some makeshift 3D modeling.

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Post by fmajid »

mstade wrote: post #140
fmajid wrote: post #128

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What does Apple have against the Escape key? That's a deal-breaker right there.

What would the escape key do in iPadOS though? There isn't one on the on screen keyboard, never has been.

Inside SSH sessions, e.g. Emacs.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

LeoTinnitus wrote: post #94
Yabood wrote: post #9

The Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro will be available for purchase in May for $299 (US) for the 11-inch iPad Pro and $349 (US) for the 12.9-inch iPad Pro Wow. This must be one hell of a keyboard..

That's more than even high end mechanical keyboards cost.

And this isn’t even mechanical.

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Post by dawnerd »

0x008 wrote: post #234
burgerquizz wrote: post #186

Apple, please make the ipadOS eco system developer friendly. I'd buy it instantly. If Visual Studio Code was available there, that'd be amazing. There is some projects[1] going on but using some non-viable workaround [1] https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/70764

do you know about visual studio online? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/online/overvie... maybe it is possible to self-host this as well...

There’s still other issues like keyboard shortcuts that don’t work as expected. I can’t find the link right now but there was a long github issue about all the iPad problems.
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