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To be fair to Tesla, they are much less likely to spread the virus than some of the "essential" services that are allowed to remain open. To be fair to the county, finding that perfect balance of what is essential and what is not is impossible. I can't blame them for coming down on this side of things.
Why do we need to be fair to a blatant rule breaker in a health crisis?
Have other car factories had to shut down, or is the Tesla plant unique for being in an urban area? The UAW seems to be trying to get Michigan/Midwest plants shutdown, and of course the southern plants aren’t union.
Some are shutting down. Tesla is different because all their cars are ordered by someone and so shutting down impacts customers. Others are just building for market and since people are not buying now they are more interested in shutting down production because it just builds up inventory that they need to sell (often meaning a sale). I'm not going to comment on if they should shut down. With the right provision it i…
Sad how most of the comments on that thread are focused around it being a conspiracy to affect Tesla's stock price.
On another site any comment or story that even seems negative is swarmed by fans there to tell you how it is.
I asked a question a few times out of honest curiosity...the fans were there to tell me all about how the thing I didn't say was wrong and that I was surely a troll. Nobody bothered to answer.
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>The flu does not overrun an entire country's hospital system like COVID-19 has done to Italy. to be fair it certainly can and does. The 2017/2018 influenza pandemic was probably the worst one in a decade, with 35 million infections, 700 000 hospitalizations and 60k deaths, and people for a while were treated in tents and a state of emergency was declared in Alabama, and Southern California and Texas had to turn away…
And that's a 0.2% mortality rate, still nowhere near as bad as even the lowest estimates for COVID-19.
And I'd actually also disagree that this is 'nowhere near as bad' as COVID-19. In countries like Germany or South Korea the death toll with high rates of testing appears to be somewhere in the 0.2 - 1% range. That's something I would argue is a difference in quantity rather than quality, with the dangers lying in the aggregate disease burden and vulnerable populations in particular.
Im really very tired of people who want to help me to save my life. I am not asking anybody to visit some places, but they don't want me to visit them too. And thats its basically a global hysteria, global stupidity and what happens when office have so much power to declare a lockdown. So so so stupid.
That assumption is the lie at the heart of so much of human, especially American folly that I don't even know where to start. It isn't even an assumption, it is a belief. It is a belief that no one will change but those with power will gladly abuse. Please grow up.
Have other car factories had to shut down, or is the Tesla plant unique for being in an urban area? The UAW seems to be trying to get Michigan/Midwest plants shutdown, and of course the southern plants aren’t union.
It is unique for
1) Being in California
2) Being in an area of California under a quarantine order
Im really very tired of people who want to help me to save my life. I am not asking anybody to visit some places, but they don't want me to visit them too. And thats its basically a global hysteria, global stupidity and what happens when office have so much power to declare a lockdown. So so so stupid.
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And that's a 0.2% mortality rate, still nowhere near as bad as even the lowest estimates for COVID-19.
That's a different discussion than the question if regular flu seasons can overload the healthcare systems. Yes they can, and we regularly underestimate them. And I'd actually also disagree that this is 'nowhere near as bad' as COVID-19. In countries like Germany or South Korea the death toll with high rates of testing appears to be somewhere in the 0.2 - 1% range. That's something I would argue is a difference in qu…
It seems like the nature of the overloading is different.
In particular, from those reports you mentioned, it doesn't seem like staff had to decide which patients to treat or not.
With COVID-19 we are hearing reports of some patients not being treated because there is not enough capacity (either staff or equipment) and so the death rates can be very high as many people receive inadequate treatment.
Have other car factories had to shut down, or is the Tesla plant unique for being in an urban area? The UAW seems to be trying to get Michigan/Midwest plants shutdown, and of course the southern plants aren’t union.
Some are shutting down. Tesla is different because all their cars are ordered by someone and so shutting down impacts customers. Others are just building for market and since people are not buying now they are more interested in shutting down production because it just builds up inventory that they need to sell (often meaning a sale). I'm not going to comment on if they should shut down. With the right provision it i…