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50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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IIRC all or almost all of those 7 were over 80.

I heard "all over 80" on HN and reddit multiple times as well, but could not confirm. Regardless, Italy's official average age of death is 81, so it wouldn't be surprising.

6 in the 70-79 bracket and one in 80-89, but 70-79 was also the biggest group. https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/severity/diamond_crui...

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It's not really about how bad your symptoms get before you can get tested. It's about WHERE you are. Coronavirus is a virus after all, just like the flu, there is no medication. You can only treat the symptoms, but not the virus itself (as opposed to a bacterial infection where you can attack the bacteria with antibiotics). So with these undeniable facts it's fairly simple, if your symptoms are so mild that you can c…

Don't know why this is downvoted. Doctors can't treat the virus but only the symptoms, even for the flu. From a public health perspective, if you have any symptoms, be it covid-19 or flu, just isolate yourself for the health of others.

It's downvoted because it's dangerous and uninformed medical advice.

You can treat flu (influenza) with osetalmivir. People with mild symptoms can still be at risk, further testing is needed [1]

Please just phone your emergency line if you suspect you may have it.

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22610265

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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I made a simple site to graph the daily increase figures. It only shows infections and deaths but from that you can see very different ratios for different countries. ( http://coronanalytics.com if you’re interested.)

do you respect the time delay when calculating Case Fatality Rate? https://smw.ch/article/doi/smw.2020.20203

I’m just using the data straight from the John Hopkins institute.

https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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I think there is a more reasonable explanation why they are not testing you. Simply because they wouldn’t do anything with that information anyway. If the test is positive they’ll send you home to quarantine telling you to call back if your fever worsens. If the test would show negative, they’d tell you, guess what; “please call back if your fever worsens, and stay in quarantine anyway”. So the information doesn’t re…

You should not be giving medical advice. 3% of people with no fever who test positive end up needing ITU admission. Deterioration can be sudden after the first week.

You’re right. I’ll edit it. Edit: I cannot edit it:(

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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I made a simple site to graph the daily increase figures. It only shows infections and deaths but from that you can see very different ratios for different countries. ( http://coronanalytics.com if you’re interested.)

You might try sorting the countries in your select input. They appear to be in some random order and I almost gave up looking for the country I was interested in.

This is a good shout. I’m just using them in the order the John Hopkins institute put them. A sort would be useful!

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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Anecdotes are not sufficient data

They are when there's little quantitative data to work with. A lot of people's biggest questions are what the hell "COVID-19 symptoms" and apparently it means just about anything. I'm suspicious of the 2 week long illness my family has just gotten over. Hit each of us differently. Predominantly nasal mucus, but the kids had some chest congestion, wife had a fever, and I had what felt like a sinus infection and a bit…

No, the symptoms are pretty clear:

Fever, dry cough, fatigue, sputum production, shortness of breath (dyspnoe), muscle/joint pain.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#the-symptoms-of-covid...

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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Same here, persistent mild chest pressure. My girlfriend as well as myself are experiencing it. But it's so subtle that you start to question it at times. But especially when lying in bed it becomes quite annoying or frightening if I think too much about it.

Hey, here with you. I have chest tightness (and sometimes a stabby pain) and it feels like I cannot breathe as well. Going on for almost two weeks now - no other symptoms at all. I called in with a physician and they said likely not covid, just muscular stuff. I also have allergies and thing begin to bloom... So I am confused and worried, lots of anxiety. But it could just be allergies or something muscular from work…

I'm also not 100% convinced that it isn't something psychosomatic. The whole situation is very tense and that reflects physically. The fact that even in Germany testing isn't an option doesn't help. I stay mostly home and and it seems that the situation is improving. I hope you'll also soon feel better!

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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We've known this for a while. Everyone will get it. You might have it now. Nothing will happen. Still, quarantine for a while because you'll give it to an older person or kid. This isn't about a 20-something year old getting sick. Let your anti-bodies make yourself non-contagious. We are all kindergartens and this is chickenpox basically.

That means 1-2 million deaths in the US according to the latest modelling from Imperial Collage London, so it’s likely all countries will proceed to full lockdown for months at some point soon.

I feel like those models take china into it. A place with high levels of smokers and pollution. When the dust settles I doubt 2 million old people will die.

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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> and push it higher than a normal flu season. last major flu season in Italy killed 24k people. We didn't immolate the global economy as a result

At this rate in Italy alone it will kill more than 100k people. And the rate is increasing.

It won't

Re: 50% – 75% of cases of Covid-19 are asymptomatic

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I live in Japan and I experience mild symptoms since last Wednesday but not sure if my symptom is due to Covid-19. In Japan, You have meet two conditions to take a CPR test. 1. the symptoms with fever of 37.5 degrees or more continue for 4 days or more (for the eldery and those with underlying disease, "4 days" becomes "2 days") 2. you have strong laxity (malaise) or breathlessness (dyspnea), or you have underlying d…

I think there is a more reasonable explanation why they are not testing you. Simply because they wouldn’t do anything with that information anyway. If the test is positive they’ll send you home to quarantine telling you to call back if your fever worsens. If the test would show negative, they’d tell you, guess what; “please call back if your fever worsens, and stay in quarantine anyway”. So the information doesn’t re…

The results of the individual test might have limited use to the individual.

But the idea that the information won't be used is nonsense. It's invaluable for the overall response. We have only the vaguest of ideas how many people (in the U.S.) are infected. The more information we have about cases with few or no symptoms, the more we can understand the spread and take appropriate measures (that will also be more obviously justified, countering people who claim overreaction).

More accurate information about symptoms would also help individual people:

- help them understand that they can feel fine and still be getting other people sick

- help them have an accurate picture of contracting the disease, instead of leaving it to nightmares

There's no universe where having more information about the situation would not be better.

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