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Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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The one time I bought on Grubhub I had trouble getting the price to something reasonable even with the coupon I had (only reason I was trying it) because all the menu prices were way higher than at the actual restaurants. Even with (IIRC) the delivery fee waived and a significant % off (I wanna say 20 or 30?) it was about the same as going in. Does Grubhub do the menu-price adjusting part, or do the restaurants? Unli…

All of the delivery apps have much higher prices than what you can get at the place yourself. I suggest take-out or drive-thru if you're able.

The pricing was a big turn-off for me. The way it added more to the delivery cost per-item rather than being some kind of flat delivery fee, which didn't make much sense, and how it seemed like they were trying to hide the cost of delivery.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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post #82

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In today’s world Uber eats, Grubhub, etc take 30% of the gross on an order. No way it’s more profitable than having people in house buying alcohol.

The one time I bought on Grubhub I had trouble getting the price to something reasonable even with the coupon I had (only reason I was trying it) because all the menu prices were way higher than at the actual restaurants. Even with (IIRC) the delivery fee waived and a significant % off (I wanna say 20 or 30?) it was about the same as going in. Does Grubhub do the menu-price adjusting part, or do the restaurants? Unli…

I noticed the same thing a while back with DoorDash when trying to order some Cracker Barrel breakfast. It was something like a 30-40% hike across the board. I emailed DoorDash to ask what was going on with the prices and got a super misleading response along the lines of "our partner restaurants set their own prices" [1]- basically deflecting the blame back at the restaurant. So I emailed Cracker Barrel, and they are not (or were not at the time) partnered with any delivery service.

[1] actual text from email: "As stated in our Terms and Conditions, the prices for menu items on DoorDash may differ from the prices on the restaurant's own menu. For example, our restaurant partners are responsible for setting the price of their menu items on DoorDash, and some restaurant partners choose to set different prices than they offer for in-store diners."

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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post #52

I can't understand why would somebody think that putting latest data on the left is a good idea.

It's a very good idea for time-series data which has a "freshness" aspect. If you started with the beginning of the dataset, February 18, you'd be adding significant weight to values which are comparative to, but no longer representative of, the current state of things on March 16. Not to mention, if it was first-to-last displayed left to right, you may miss the scroll bar and not understand the value of the data bei…

You can still put the most recent data on the right, and zoom in to show the rightmost data points. This is an established practice in stock charts and works well.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

#165

I'm always a little surprised that so many people never picked up the ability to even do basic cooking. Of course, as recently as Sunday people like Nunes were telling people it was important to support their local businesses by eating out as if it were their patriotic duty. It might be different now that even Fox and Trump are saying the same thing as the CDC finally. Maybe not if people literally cannot feed themse…

Maybe the demand is also caused by people who have returned from traveling in the past two weeks and are self quarantining somewhere where they have no cooking equipment?

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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No it’s not. The margin on one beer is more than two entrees put together.

But a takeout beer would be higher margin than a sit-in beer.

A lot of people are just gonna hit the liquor store on their way.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one time I bought on Grubhub I had trouble getting the price to something reasonable even with the coupon I had (only reason I was trying it) because all the menu prices were way higher than at the actual restaurants. Even with (IIRC) the delivery fee waived and a significant % off (I wanna say 20 or 30?) it was about the same as going in. Does Grubhub do the menu-price adjusting part, or do the restaurants? Unli…

I noticed the same thing a while back with DoorDash when trying to order some Cracker Barrel breakfast. It was something like a 30-40% hike across the board. I emailed DoorDash to ask what was going on with the prices and got a super misleading response along the lines of "our partner restaurants set their own prices" [1]- basically deflecting the blame back at the restaurant. So I emailed Cracker Barrel, and they ar…

Actually, it may have been DoorDash I used, now that you mention it. Seemed like a really gross way to price delivery, giving fake, higher prices on every single menu item. And then still a delivery fee on top of that! I seriously had to shop around several of their restaurants and several menu combos to find one where I wasn't still paying above-menu even with the fairly "generous" coupon.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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No it’s not. The margin on one beer is more than two entrees put together.

But a takeout beer would be higher margin than a sit-in beer.

That's probably only possible in places like New Orleans. I was surprised to learn about the notion of the "to-go cup" a few years back. It has significant explanatory power in some parts of the city.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

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post #33
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Siting at a table with your family that is wiped down just before you sit seems to me like an incredibly low risk activity. As in, less risky than picking up food from a grocery store where infected people are shopping and touching things on a daily basis.

I don't see how it's low-risk to have an infected person preparing your food in the kitchen. At least with a grocery store, you can wash off the produce before you use it. With a restaurant, there's nothing covering the food at all. And remember, the chefs in the kitchen are paid peanuts, and have no safety net whatsoever, so there's zero incentive for them to get tested or to stay out of work if they get sick. This…

A large number of unknown people from the general public have been in contact with the dine-in table. Only a handful of kitchen staff are in contact with surfaces involved in preparing takeout.

Eating at home is still a better idea for the reasons you state, but takeout is an acceptable if less-ideal alternative.

Re: The state of the restaurant industry

#170
post #32

I can't understand why would somebody think that putting latest data on the left is a good idea.

If it becomes very long then the data you lose to the scrollbar is the least relevant.

Start with it scrolled to the right?
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