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Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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I find it surprising that Heroku was the breakeven point. There have been other (what I consider) rather high-profile exits, such as Cloudkick, Reddit, Etherpad, 280 North, etc. These were good companies and were acquired for significant amounts; it seems like YC would have realized some significant gains on them.

I'm wondering if "break-even" in this case means "typical VC 10X expected profit on investments"

No. That would be one hell of a creative definition for 'break-even'.

Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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His prescience knows no bounds.

I hate to derail, is that ripped from Greg Proops? If you're going to steal, he's a great source for material :)

Not sure, I don't know who Greg Proops is.

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It exists and is called Dragons' Den.

American version is called Shark Tank, and based on the deals the investors offer, it's aptly named. Mark Cuban has signed on to be part of the next season!

Mark Cuban had a TV show, The Benefactor[1], with a similar premise.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Benefactor

Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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I find it surprising that Heroku was the breakeven point. There have been other (what I consider) rather high-profile exits, such as Cloudkick, Reddit, Etherpad, 280 North, etc. These were good companies and were acquired for significant amounts; it seems like YC would have realized some significant gains on them.

The article might have meant YC recouped their past investments in all startups combined:

"YC broke even on its past investments when Salesforce.com (CRM) bought YC company Heroku"

Since the sales price is above 200 million, YC's equity would be worth 12+ million, which likely surpassed the total monetary first-seed investments in every startup they did so far.

Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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I'm wondering if "break-even" in this case means "typical VC 10X expected profit on investments"

No. That would be one hell of a creative definition for 'break-even'.

Look at a Hollywood contract sometime, with such lovely concepts as "triple breakeven" and "rolling breakeven". The creativity in LA isn't just behind the camera!

Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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No. That would be one hell of a creative definition for 'break-even'.

Look at a Hollywood contract sometime, with such lovely concepts as "triple breakeven" and "rolling breakeven". The creativity in LA isn't just behind the camera!

Our lawyer (we're based in LA) says that on many smaller Hollywood deals you're lucky to even have a written contract...

Re: Paul Graham's Search for the Next Facebook

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American version is called Shark Tank, and based on the deals the investors offer, it's aptly named. Mark Cuban has signed on to be part of the next season!

Mark Cuban had a TV show, The Benefactor [1], with a similar premise. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Benefactor

Interesting, I totally missed that somehow. Probably because I don't really watch TV much. Oh well... you win some, you lose some.
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