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Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#81

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> craving for a catastrophic scenario like that to unfold so they can feel part of something greater than themselves This reminds me of a recent piece in the NYT about despair[1]. I thought that a discussion of meaning was conspicuously absent. I think that religion and civic life has so utterly failed to provide any substantive meaning of life for most people in a manifestly secular world, that is isn't the least bi…

This is why I really do believe that family (or the opportunity to have a fam) is all we have.

What about art, mathematics, fiction, music, etc?

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

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I'm enjoying it. As I see it society goes two ways during hard times: people either become selfish survivalists, or they become more compassionate. Lockdowns are great - they keep the assholes away from you and lock you in with the people who will live and die with you (or they can be hell). If you're not with someone, maybe you should find someone? Move in with a friend because loneliness will make you very depresse…

This. Very sage advice. Turning inwards while turning off devices unlocks many things.

Written non-ironically on a device ;)

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#83
post #59

I'm enjoying it. As I see it society goes two ways during hard times: people either become selfish survivalists, or they become more compassionate. Lockdowns are great - they keep the assholes away from you and lock you in with the people who will live and die with you (or they can be hell). If you're not with someone, maybe you should find someone? Move in with a friend because loneliness will make you very depresse…

You impress me as a healthy person who is financially secure and/or has a strong safety net of family/friends/governmental support, who finds it not difficult to stay on the sunny side of life. I'm not sure you have much to offer people who are struggling with health problems, overwhelming family responsibilities and/or financial insecurity as we head into a recession. Some people are wondering how they are going to support themselves and where they are going to live in the near future, so "Just enjoy the sunset" comes off as a little vacuous. edit: sp

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#84
The bad news, fearmongering, pessimism, empty market shelf pictures, etc clogging my otherwise interesting forward thinking RSS feeds feels like a case of the hiccups.

People just want to rally around something - you've now got access to more prompts for conversation with complete strangers under looming conditions that appear to threaten your species.

There is also a reverse psychology element in your biased Media Mogul Controlled "News" telling you to stay away from other people for a few weeks (when authority announces the end of this phase there will be a burst of interaction and crowded events to restore social equilibrium ).

Since we all learned through standardized curriculum grade school about large fractions of past populations dying off to disease spread - all of this is ancient memory tellling us to be careful.

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#85
post #78

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This is a great perspective. Thanks!

I take the dimmer view: this is not even a real emergency, and we're not doing very well. I'm not down-playing the seriousness of the pandemic, by "real" I mean it's not a dirty nuke, a large-scale bio-chemical act of terrorism, a virus like ebola where death is faster and more graphic, geographical disaster of continental proportion, or an alien invasion (could happen - we think about it, write about it, make lots o…

>panic buying of everything

It's not panic buying when you are basically told to stay in your home for weeks on end. You say two weeks- but in Washington here our schools are closed for SIX WEEKS. People want to be prepared. I have kids, they eat like adults. Do you realize how big of food shopping trips people normally do every 1-2 weeks anyway with full families? And we simply don't know if production is going to slow down, how fast stores with be able to resupply various items. Might be no big deal or might be a problem.

So I think you really confuse panic buying with being prepared.. having to go to the store every few days because you don't stock up pretty much defeats the purpose of what we are doing.

>markets down in historic marker

And why should it not be? The markets were already pushing themselves to the limits.. you add a simple normal reversal on top of this mess and you get exactly what we are seeing. Plus, there is no modern equivalent for the economic impact this will have. It's going to spiral and seep into every aspect of the economy. Why shouldn't the market plummet? The uncertainty is almost unfathomable.

>everybody acts like they can't make the next payment

Well.. you have tons of people who simply cannot work right now. Enough people in the country/world live essentially paycheck to paycheck anyway- now suddenly we take away potentially weeks/months of income? What do you expect?

>We are so under-prepared for anything really serious.

Yes and no. This situation just shows how utterly fragile all parts of the economy depend on each other, how much supply chains are linked, and how much we take it for granted that everything is always working as usual.

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#88
post #63

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Which tells you how sick our economy is. A virus is spreading which causes people to, no fault of their own, to lose their jobs, homes and go into starvation. Governments around the world are spending billions and trillions to prop up failing stock markets but almost nothing to provide for real people in real need.

Without an economy there is no tax money and without tax money there is no way for the government to help people in need. So then the government prints money which drives up inflation. Eventually society effectively collapses and no one is helped. It's happened before. So by your own logic of greater good trumps all the economy trumps helping people.

What? I didn't write that having an economy is a bad thing.I wrote that our current global economy is sick and rotten to the core. It urgently needs to be replaced with something that works for all of us rather than the few before it dooms us all.

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

#89
I'm cautiously optimistic that most of us will get through this crisis successfully, at least here in Scandinavia where solidarity is still a thing (however imperfectly).

What I do worry a little about is the knock on effects; the amplification of existing trends that reduce physical commerce in town centres, driving shops, cafés, etc., out of business.

If we want to have places to shop other than supermarkets and online and a reason to maintain and develop town centres someone is going to have to figure out how to change various tax regimes to make it easier for such places to survive.

In most towns that I visit there has already in the last forty years been a dramatic reduction in the range of goods available and of course this just drives even more people to shop online further reducing the turnover of the local shops.

Of course it could be that we should just let them go out of business and find an alternative way of living.

Other than that, as keiferski says we live in much better times, even with this crisis, than pretty much ever before.

Re: Ask HN: How are you coping with all the (mostly bad) news around you?

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post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without an economy there is no tax money and without tax money there is no way for the government to help people in need. So then the government prints money which drives up inflation. Eventually society effectively collapses and no one is helped. It's happened before. So by your own logic of greater good trumps all the economy trumps helping people.

What? I didn't write that having an economy is a bad thing.I wrote that our current global economy is sick and rotten to the core. It urgently needs to be replaced with something that works for all of us rather than the few before it dooms us all.

Replaced with what? Attempt to replace the economy generally just end with a different few controlling things (the new dictator, the party leaders, the rich, etc.). Saying "tear it all down and replace it with magic pixie dust" just ends in mass death.
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