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Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

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Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#11

That's not a mugging. I think you mean robbed: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mugged to assault or menace, especially with the intention of robbery. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rob to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or threat of violence; steal from. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/burglarize to break into and steal from: Thieves burglarized the warehouse.

I think he doesn't mean robbed. Robbery is theft with the use or threat of violence. Yes, I know that the dictionary mumbles something half-hearted about it being the same as theft.

Find yourself covered in slime? You're being thefted.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#12
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I have heard of this specific scam happening in Buenos Aires as well. It's a particularly nasty one. It's unfortunate, but I would say that on my world trip about 50-60% of English-speaking locals in non-English-speaking countries were trying to get my money somehow. I feel bad for the ones who weren't, because I had to treat them with such suspicion. But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do t…

> But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do than talk to you, they're probably after your money.

I have some experiences in Turkey. Outside the tourist spots, people talking to you are generally not after your money.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#13

That's not a mugging. I think you mean robbed: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mugged to assault or menace, especially with the intention of robbery. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rob to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or threat of violence; steal from. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/burglarize to break into and steal from: Thieves burglarized the warehouse.

I think he doesn't mean robbed. Robbery is theft with the use or threat of violence. Yes, I know that the dictionary mumbles something half-hearted about it being the same as theft.

It's closer to a combination of an elaborate pickpocket and purse snatch than anything else.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#14

But I thought pickpocketing was a lost art, according to the Salon article we were discussing earlier? Perhaps a lost art in the old school sense of a mark, a pocket quietly picked, and no one being the wiser, but the run down of events and parties involved sounds identical to the pickpocketing scenario Salon laid out. Just with a more elaborate distraction than bumping into your shoulder.

The Salon article specifically mentions that mainly just a lost art in the US.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#15
A couple of years ago, a couple of prescription drug addicts stole some lawn tools and GPSes from our unfortunately unlocked garage. The local police (we live in a relatively affluent suburb) ended up coordinating with other local police departments and eventually caught the thieves. The police office I worked with thought that these same two guys were likely responsible for over a hundred similar property crimes. One is now in prison, and I'm not sure about the other guy. Unfortunately, my specific loss was not one for which they were prosecuted. Otherwise, I think I could make a claim against the 37 cents/hour (or whatever) those guys are paid in prison.

I'm told that the 80/20 rule applies to petty crime -- a handful of semi-pro thieves are responsible for a majority of the thefts. Given this, it seems that catching a few people who steal laptops, bikes, purses, etc. would actually have a significant impact on local crime levels. A problem with my particular case is that the thieves had already gotten rid of most of the stuff they had stolen, so proving in court that they had committed the crime would have been difficult. How viable of a start-up idea it would be to create "bait" laptops? The company would offer a turnkey service to law enforcement agencies. A special laptop would be provided to the police. It would appear normal at first glance but would record audio (and video?) and transmit GPS locations via a cellular connection. The police would place this laptop in an unlocked vehicle and leave. When the laptop moved, they would be notified via services provided by the start-up. From there, the police could either apprehend the thieves quickly or wait to see where they took the laptop (to get probable cause for a search warrant?). The back-end system would then produce court-ready evidence for the prosecution -- printable maps of activity, times, etc. Perhaps audio/video snippets ready to be played in court?

I did some quick Googling and could not find such a service. I wonder how one goes about selling to law enforcement agencies? Would they be able to make a purchase without 17 visits from a sales rep? Is this even a viable product? Thinking about my own community, I would love to hear about my police department working to reduce random crimes like these. There have been a couple of murders since we moved here a few years ago, but those have both been committed by family members of the victim. My greatest local crime risk is petty property theft.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#16

That's not a mugging. I think you mean robbed: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mugged to assault or menace, especially with the intention of robbery. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rob to take something from (someone) by unlawful force or threat of violence; steal from. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/burglarize to break into and steal from: Thieves burglarized the warehouse.

Is there a version of Poe's Law for pedantry?

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

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I have heard of this specific scam happening in Buenos Aires as well. It's a particularly nasty one. It's unfortunate, but I would say that on my world trip about 50-60% of English-speaking locals in non-English-speaking countries were trying to get my money somehow. I feel bad for the ones who weren't, because I had to treat them with such suspicion. But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do t…

> But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do than talk to you, they're probably after your money. I have some experiences in Turkey. Outside the tourist spots, people talking to you are generally not after your money.

I think it holds true for major US cities (though usually you're just being panhandled instead of conned). The exception to this is generally people asking for directions This seems much more common if you're on a bike, which if you think about it is pretty clever. I wonder if there is a tourism book out there somewhere that advises you to ask bikers for directions over other people.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#18
post #2

I have heard of this specific scam happening in Buenos Aires as well. It's a particularly nasty one. It's unfortunate, but I would say that on my world trip about 50-60% of English-speaking locals in non-English-speaking countries were trying to get my money somehow. I feel bad for the ones who weren't, because I had to treat them with such suspicion. But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do t…

> But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do than talk to you, they're probably after your money.

That could be a rule in popular tourist spots, other than that I prefer to think that most of population of the world doesn't want to hurt me.

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#19

Grrr...I hate to be this person, but why, oh why, is this on Hacker News? This isn't a "hack" or anything new...they've been doing this to tourists for as long as there have been tourists.

From the post, I'm assuming one of the victims is limedaring who just a week ago launched her site http://www.weddinginvitelove.com/, which was covered in this item with almost 500 points: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2227770

Re: Find yourself covered in slime? You're being mugged.

#20
post #2

I have heard of this specific scam happening in Buenos Aires as well. It's a particularly nasty one. It's unfortunate, but I would say that on my world trip about 50-60% of English-speaking locals in non-English-speaking countries were trying to get my money somehow. I feel bad for the ones who weren't, because I had to treat them with such suspicion. But, the rule is, if somebody doesn't have anything better to do t…

Like this kind of stuff would never happen in NYC, LA, Detroit, Baltimore...
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