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How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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I'm looking for information for those that provide patient care to covid patients. Infection rate, best practices, transmission to family (I live with a doctor providing care to covid patients...), etc. I've seen some anecdotes and single case reports that are concerning, but anything that is data driven like this will be helpful.

Also, where is non denatured ethanol readily available?

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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I'm looking for information for those that provide patient care to covid patients. Infection rate, best practices, transmission to family (I live with a doctor providing care to covid patients...), etc. I've seen some anecdotes and single case reports that are concerning, but anything that is data driven like this will be helpful. Also, where is non denatured ethanol readily available?

You can use diluted bleach (1:9 bleach:water) for cleaning surfaces. Source is WHO guidelines as linked by raphlinus downthread (hard for me to get a direct link to the comment due to the device I'm reading on, sorry).

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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I'm looking for information for those that provide patient care to covid patients. Infection rate, best practices, transmission to family (I live with a doctor providing care to covid patients...), etc. I've seen some anecdotes and single case reports that are concerning, but anything that is data driven like this will be helpful. Also, where is non denatured ethanol readily available?

Here's a review that seems pretty comprehensive and careful with sources:

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/coronavirus-disease-2019-c...

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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How do we know the doubling time? That seems like the biggest assumption that we're not sure about. I've seen 1 week, 5 days, and even recently 3 days.

The doubling time of deaths appears to be much slower than the doubling time of confirmed cases, and is probably a better comparison. It could be slightly faster than reports, if deaths are getting missed, or misattributed to other illnesses. But it still seems more accurate than judging the doubling time of confirmed cases, which is more just a measure of how quickly we are able to increase testing when there's a ba…

Even doubling times of deaths has issues as a measure. For example, the double time before you're forced to triage is going to be better than when your health system is overwhelmed.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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It's disingenuous to compare COVID-19 death with traffic death in Dr. Lin's presentation.

Here are the facts:

- The 30k U.S. traffic death count is for the ENTIRE YEAR. The 3k death in Wuhun happened in a matter of weeks(6-8 weeks).

- Given that U.S.'s inaction and squandered 2 months of lead time, we could see death count to be in the order of hundreds of thousands in U.S. alone.[1] This is NOT an estimate based on mathematical model, this is the estimate based on clinical data so far and virus's exponential growth rate. There isn't a national lock-down yet although some states are acting quickly, still 2 month late.

- Mass majority of the vehicular deaths are preventable because most of them are due to human error. COVID-19 is NOT preventable RIGHT NOW. Vaccines are at least 1-1.5 years away, no matter how fast track you spin it.

- Asymptomatic and family based clustering transmissions are making the lock-down less effective.

- We will get through this nightmare pandemic outbreak. But the economic depression is real and ongoing. Nobody knows what the long term effect could be.

[1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-pr...

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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I'd like to see more information on what to do if you are sick. Even younger people have gotten serious respiratory complications and it would be great to have information on how to care for yourself or your family short of heading to the hospital and contributing to the overwhelming of their staff.

1. Onions are good lung support.

2. Watermelon is good kidney support. This is helpful if you are experiencing bloating.

3. Hot peppers are antimicrobial, antiviral, antifungal and open a cell channel that helps you dump fluids.

4. Tea is an astringent. Drinking it can help reduce fluid in the lungs.

5. Spicy foods are medicinal. Some stuff that helps combat infection include: onions, garlic, hot peppers, black pepper, cinnamon, olives. Oregano and oil of oregano are especially helpful for lung infections.

6. Alkalinity helps combat viral infections. Look up alkaline food lists.

7. Stay hydrated and get enough salt. Water and salt are critical components of mucus, an important lung thing.

8. Lysine helps combat viral infections.

9. Lung clearance is a standard means to treat serious lung conditions and keep airways open. A simple means to do this is stand in the shower with your feet about shoulder width apart, bend over as far as you can and cough hard.

10. Caffeine is a stimulant that works very similarly to an inhaler drug. So you can drink coffee or eat very dark chocolate to open up the airways as a drug substitute.

Most likely, this comment will be downvoted to hell and one or more people will promptly jump up to accuse me of nefarious behavior, delusions of grandeur, having no fucking clue what I'm talking about or similar. I get that a lot.

I have a very deadly medical condition that involves the lungs. I'm off all drugs. The above are some of the things I rely upon.

I'm not a doctor. I'm a former homemaker and formerly homeless person.

Do whatever the hell you want with that info.

Edit: if you have lung distress, avoid bacon.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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post #26

It's disingenuous to compare COVID-19 death with traffic death in Dr. Lin's presentation. Here are the facts: - The 30k U.S. traffic death count is for the ENTIRE YEAR. The 3k death in Wuhun happened in a matter of weeks(6-8 weeks). - Given that U.S.'s inaction and squandered 2 months of lead time, we could see death count to be in the order of hundreds of thousands in U.S. alone.[1] This is NOT an estimate based on…

I didn’t get the impression he was comparing them. Just providing reference points. He’s pretty clear that this is bad.

Re: How to fight the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 and its disease, Covid-19 [pdf]

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The last slide is a hand sanitizer recipe. It's probably the most useful thing here.

Unfortunately, here in Brazil an old ban exists on selling ethanol, due to concerns of it causing accidents with fire and explosions. The only way for an ordinary person to acquire ethanol is in the form of - take a guess - hand sanitizers (or vehicular ethanol at gas stations, but it is inappropriate for that purpose). So currently hand sanitizers are completely out of stock and soap is the only alternative.
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