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Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by cycloptic »

K0nserv wrote: post #14

This seems like a good outcome overall. NPM being such an important pillar in the software supply chain while having an unviable business model and largely being funded by VC money was never a good position to be in. There are problems with more of the software ecosystem consolidating with a single entity but it still feels like an improvement.

It was already consolidated. The vast majority of public npm packages are already hosted on Github. The dependency on them has been there since the beginning.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by mythz »

bepotts wrote: post #36

Gotta respect how Microsoft couldn't build anything the open source community wanted to work with/on so instead they used their Windows and Office monopoly to buy everyone's favorite playgrounds.

They should get props for TypeScript & VSCode.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by fxtentacle »

spacephysics wrote: post #19

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extingu... Whelp, time to look for backup solutions for when Microsoft continues their strategy. Even today there’s an article about github flagging (re shadow banning) a user with 10k+ lib users, and no response from them as to why the ban occurred. Thinking of adding an “in case of emergency” link in my README for users in case of sudden service loss.

I wonder why your (entirely reasonable) comment got down-voted so much. This is exactly the risk why people prefer a distributed and decentralized internet over one where all open source is stored in one central Microsoft subsidiary (e.g. GitHub).

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by nathcd »

Sometimes I wonder what the business world (and the internet) would be like if mergers and acquisitions weren't allowed. Like, if businesses had to be sustainable or they'd just die, rather than capturing a whole market while eating VC money, maybe we'd all be better off? All of the really embarrassing stuff coming out of SV would just go away? Just Pinboards and Sourcehuts and Mastodons ruling the web?

I'm capitalistically illiterate, so somebody please tell me why this thought is stupid.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by cmckn »

clarkbw wrote: post #11
dubcanada wrote: post #5

Wait, so is it joining Microsoft? Or is it under Github, which is under Microsoft? I don't fully understand the way it's governed from this article.

Part of GitHub (I work at GitHub and lead the Packages team)

How does this acquisition relate to Package's support of npm artifacts? Or, I guess, how will Package's npm support change after this?

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by fxtentacle »

whoisjuan wrote: post #39
franciscop wrote: post #26

I'm surprised there's not a single mention of "Microsoft" in this or the npm announcement [1], given the old-evil-history of Microsoft and the new-nice Microsoft we have today. I would expect that there was at least a mention, considering the reason that most modules in npm are still in ES5 is exactly because of the monopolistic practices that Microsoft followed back in the day which makes Internet Explorer still rel…

I mean. It's a subsidiary. I understand your sentiment but mentioning Microsoft would be like signaling that GitHub doesn't have any autonomy which is quite the contrary to what Microsoft said when buying it. So don't expect sudden sincerity on this. There's a reason why they haven't added Microsoft branding to areas like the footer.

... and everyone knows that big corporations always speak purely from their open heart when they sign large acquisition deals.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by banachtarski »

franciscop wrote: post #26

I'm surprised there's not a single mention of "Microsoft" in this or the npm announcement [1], given the old-evil-history of Microsoft and the new-nice Microsoft we have today. I would expect that there was at least a mention, considering the reason that most modules in npm are still in ES5 is exactly because of the monopolistic practices that Microsoft followed back in the day which makes Internet Explorer still rel…

I installed Windows Subsystem for Linux 2 on an older machine just now. The MSFT of today is definitely a far cry from the MSFT of yesteryear. Such a thing would have been unheard of 15 years ago.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

cycloptic wrote: post #41
K0nserv wrote: post #14

This seems like a good outcome overall. NPM being such an important pillar in the software supply chain while having an unviable business model and largely being funded by VC money was never a good position to be in. There are problems with more of the software ecosystem consolidating with a single entity but it still feels like an improvement.

It was already consolidated. The vast majority of public npm packages are already hosted on Github. The dependency on them has been there since the beginning.

I would expect that moving git repos is easier than replacing NPM?
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