Call me a cynic but after 9/11 I’m weary of temporary measures that become permanent in one way or another.
Washington governor announces shutdown of restaurants, bars
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#132It's probably best if we aggregate these links in one place rather than having a separate thread for each new location. (Similarly to what we did at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22550840 ) NYC: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22589463 California ("calls for", not enforced): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22587062 Others?
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#133IMO the only question now is how long it takes the rest of the country to follow suite. Here in NC our governor announced the closing of all public schools on Friday, but I've heard from several friends that in my city (Raleigh) the downtown bars and restaurants were pretty much at normal capacity this weekend. I don't think the general public is going to truly take this seriously until they're told that they have to…
Illinois announced restaurants and bars closed except for pickup/delivery effective after close of business on Monday.
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#134“Restaurants will be allowed to provide take-out and delivery services but no in-person dining will be permitted. I live an SRO. I don't have a kitchen. I currently don't have a fridge. I have a small grill and some shelving to store stuff. I eat a lot of takeout. I'm glad to see I can still get takeout. But, wow. This is beginning to look pretty scary. I was homeless for a few years. The quarantine/containment measu…
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#135This is going to be an economic catastrophe unless there's somehow a nationwide bailout to literally all brick and mortar businesses. I know of several local bar/restaurants that are considering shutting down for good, and a colleague near Melbourne told me of 4 that already have (I'm eastern US). Even if this all blows over in 3 months, we'll have a huge surge in homelessness and folks needing social assistance acro…
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Covid19 is closer to SARS than the flu, and is known to cause permanent lung, kidney, and testicle damage, even in young and healthy patients. Even among young patients, the ICU rate is as high as 10%. A low mortality rate for young people assumes access to an ICU. All of New York State only has about 600 unoccupied ICU beds. If the number of infections in New York breaches 6,000, the fatality rate among young people…
Those are some important facts, thanks for sharing. I’d like to see the probability of healthy people getting permanent damage however. That would change my mind. Until then the extremely low fatality and infection rate for average people, as well as the incubation period being so long that it’s unrealistic to contain it, is enough for me not to worry about it.
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#137Anyone found any good info on the risks of food itself. Eg kitchen staff is infected, coughs into meal 1. Do you get if it’s cold food, like a salad or sushi? 2. If yes, do you get it if it’s warm food, like indian food? 3. If yes, do you get if you reheat/microwave the food? If so, what is required/ Have not seen a lot of discussion about this. Did see that in china restaurants would certify the body temperatures of…
It transmits in several ways, including droplets: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/transmissi... And WHO says it lives on surfaces for a couple hours up to several days. https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses So, personally, I'm not eating anything if someone coughs on it or around it. I'm not even buying fresh fruit and veggies at the store right now. I can't find any information…
Just cook it.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many of them, no. And bars, for instance, aren’t allowed to serve their primary purpose via delivery. Or movie theaters. Or music venues. Or retail. Or.... It’s gonna be a mess, because we already know the government is going to fail to alleviate the impact.
Retail can't deliver... What is the primary non-deliverable thing you get from retail?
Re: Washington governor announces shutdown of restaurants, bars
#139Anyone found any good info on the risks of food itself. Eg kitchen staff is infected, coughs into meal 1. Do you get if it’s cold food, like a salad or sushi? 2. If yes, do you get it if it’s warm food, like indian food? 3. If yes, do you get if you reheat/microwave the food? If so, what is required/ Have not seen a lot of discussion about this. Did see that in china restaurants would certify the body temperatures of…
Fully-cooked food (~160 degree F temp) is sanitary as of the time it's done cooking. For takeout food, the lowest risk is items with relatively little post-processing after being cooked - Thai food, for example, where the cook basically dumps it from a wok into a container. The worst case is probably dishes where many people interact with raw ingredients to create a high-touch item. Compared to physical contact with…
Re: Washington governor announces shutdown of restaurants, bars
#140It's probably best if we aggregate these links in one place rather than having a separate thread for each new location. (Similarly to what we did at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22550840 ) NYC: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22589463 California ("calls for", not enforced): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22587062 Others?