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Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

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Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#41

My "high interest" savings accounts already took a recent haircut and this will accelerate that. I understand that's the idea: make investing attractive and savings unattractive. But for a regular joe like me, this is exactly the time I want to be saving more so it stings.

What do you think is the difference between saving and investing??

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#42
post #15

The Fed can, and will do much, much more. The signal here should be read as "whatever it takes to avoid a depression." Among other steps, this is likely to mean: - Negative-yielding long-term treasuries - Direct purchase of stocks or ETFs, which would require congressional approval. Expect the discussions to start soon. The steps already taken and the ones to be taken will create financial manipulation on a scale nev…

Interesting that S&P futures have fallen 3% as of 5:00pm in Asia. Are markets interpreting this less as the Fed signaling it will do whatever it takes and more as the Fed is panicked and the financial system is under a huge amount of pressure behind the scenes? Edit: S&P futures limit down at 5:15.

The problem is that fed action isn't enough. We need policy changes to keep SMEs above water. The White House and Congress have not taken appropriate action. Trump acted like he was going to take action on Friday, the markets ripped higher, and everything he announced was worthless, but that wasn't clear until markets closed.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#43
post #15

The Fed can, and will do much, much more. The signal here should be read as "whatever it takes to avoid a depression." Among other steps, this is likely to mean: - Negative-yielding long-term treasuries - Direct purchase of stocks or ETFs, which would require congressional approval. Expect the discussions to start soon. The steps already taken and the ones to be taken will create financial manipulation on a scale nev…

If the Fed loses this fight, game over.

This isn't the Fed's fight. Monetary policy won't fix this.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#44

Does this interest rate transfer to lower mortgage rates? Is now a good time to refinance loans?

It's already a pretty good time to refi for most people as rates dropped to a bit under 3% recently. They went back up a little bit though as mortgage companies had to take on staff to handle all the additional demand.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#45
post #15

The Fed can, and will do much, much more. The signal here should be read as "whatever it takes to avoid a depression." Among other steps, this is likely to mean: - Negative-yielding long-term treasuries - Direct purchase of stocks or ETFs, which would require congressional approval. Expect the discussions to start soon. The steps already taken and the ones to be taken will create financial manipulation on a scale nev…

> If the Fed loses this fight, game over. They've already lost it. It's clear they're scrambling. You can't print your way out of this is the lesson we KNEW from '08.

> You can't print your way out of this is the lesson we KNEW from '08.

Printing our way out of 2008-2010 is exactly what we did that worked, and it's what Europe mostly didn't do and their results were terrible by comparison (leading to another bad recession a few years later, after which the ECB finally learned a lesson; and finally after that, Europe began to properly recover, including countries hardest hit like Spain and Portugal).

The Fed's balance sheet makes this exceptionally clear:

https://i.imgur.com/QbF5jzJ.png

It took the Fed a short amount of time to ramp up the programs, including eventually moving on to QE. And it worked just fine.

See that epic balance sheet expansion in 2013 and 2014? That's the Fed avoiding what hit Europe. That's the Fed further printing our way out of the mess. It's how the US economy kept expanding for ten years.

You can in fact use the Fed to debase USD-based productivity + assets and then redirect those resources in a concentrated manner at a problem, such as the housing market. The Fed can take a trillion dollars from every holder of dollars and dollar assets, and put that trillion dollars toward a problem. This only stops working if the USD has no value (or in more realistic terms, if the USD loses very immense amounts of value, becoming mostly worthless, which makes the dollar debasement & redistribution efforts lose their punch).

The Fed bought all the toxic mortgages. They recapitalized the banks, keeping the majors and the real-estate market from collapsing under the weight of trillions in junk mortgages. They largely removed those mortgages from the market, which very rapidly helped the housing market begin to stabilize and turn around.

They successfully directly bailed out homeowners to the tune of trillions of dollars and reinflated the housing market and the stock market via low interest rates.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#46
post #2

Dumb question: does this mean normal citizens can take out loans at near-0% interest, or something close to that? I know credit card interest rates are typically tied to “the fed rate” but a but higher?

No, because the expense of processing loans becomes more significant the lower interest rates go.

It's like people complain about gas prices not dropping as much as the price of oil, ignoring that the non-oil costs largely don't go down.

Also, as something I read pointed out, the fact that people are rushing to "risk free" debt doesn't mean they are equally rushing to loan money to you, which has some risk.

So for both reasons, consumer loans aren't dropping as much as you'd hope.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#47

My "high interest" savings accounts already took a recent haircut and this will accelerate that. I understand that's the idea: make investing attractive and savings unattractive. But for a regular joe like me, this is exactly the time I want to be saving more so it stings.

What do you think is the difference between saving and investing??

Saving is preservation of capital whereas investing is growing capital. At least that is my take.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#48
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone said before, I think this is more about sending a message, as in "we're going to do whatever it takes". To be honest I don't know what the future will hold from a financial/economics point of view, but imho this is an once-in-a-century crisis.

You're right, and they made a lot of changes that are necessary to keep the global economy functioning over the next few months. I did not mean to imply that they shouldn't be taking action. I am very skeptical about cutting rates again. There are much more effective actions that could be taken at the policy level. The fed is doing what it can, but it doesn't have the right tools to lead the charge on this.

Yeah, this should definitely be teamed up with corresponding fiscal and trade policies, the Fed cannot sort all of this mess by itself.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#49
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Fed rate is the interest rates that the Fed pays banks for their deposits in the Fed. By lowering it, they’re incentivizing the banks to loan the money and provide liquidity into the market. Since banks need to make a profit on everything, they’ll loan the money out at a higher rate for things like mortgage, car loans, and credit cards. Depending on the credit worthiness and the collateral, the rates will differ…

>but you’ll never get to 0% as a consumer. Unless we see negative fed rates. Not that I think going so negative we see consumer level 0% mortgages is likely.

Take a look at Europe with negative rates. Every bank has a statement that if the rate goes below 0 your effective rate will still be above that.

Re: Federal Reserve slashes interest rates to zero

#50

Imagine if Trump had tried as hard to contain coronavirus as he’s trying to pump markets rn

I have to agree. A full lockdown of the country with a return to normal at the speed China achieved would do more than fooling around with interest rates. In the current situation, there's not much productive a business can do with more loans anyway.
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