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30 hours (claimed) battery life? That sounds ridiculous. How close (or far away) to the truth is that? Anybody know more?
That's for extended battery used together with the regular battery.
I just feel if this was just the actual battery, we would have heard a bigger announcement!
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>>• 3 hours less battery life The old battery tests were unrealistic. They advertised 8 hours on the 17'', but who really got even close to that under normal use? I'm thankful they're taking the hit on pure battery life numbers to report an honest, realistic test.
I'd be surprised if that's what happened. I suspect this is just another unrealistic number that's the same proportion of reality as the previous numbers. That said, when I'm traveling and going for extended battery life (read: trans-atlantic flights) I get pretty close to the rated number by dimming my backlight and shutting off wifi and bluetooth.
I never understood why the 13" version is such a second class citizen? Is it that different of a footprint that Apple can't fit the same technology in it... or is this Apple's plan?
It's the entry level MBP, it's also by far the most popular model; Apple just wants to make sure that you have something to upgrade _to_ from the the 13" model.
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Apple won't add a new technology to a product for no reason. I can't think of a reason why the mainstream users of MBP would be interested in BluRay. Moving forward, I hope Apple will get rid of the optical drive or offer an option to replace it with a 2nd HDD.
I can't think of a reason why the mainstream users of MBP would be interested in BluRay. For those of us without excellent internet connections, it's the only feasible way to get HD movies.
Obviously circular reasoning aside, the other feasible way is to spend more time on a slower internet connection. Under 24 hours on a 2Mb/s connection for 20GB isn't prohibitive, unless you're looking to stock your hard-disk for a trans-Pacific flight.
Ask HN: Get an old 13in MBP or new 13in MBP? The battery is more important to me than Thunderbolt.
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I was really hoping the stock models would ditch hard drives entirely (for SSDs) like the MB Air.
The only reason I wasn't hoping for that is because I intend to stuff a 512 GB aftermarket SSD into my next MBP and I'd rather not pay through the nose for Apple's upgrade option.
edit: pricing differs slightly depending on model
hmm - you need to go to 1799$ before you end up with a half decent graphics card and 2199$ for a decent card. Compare it with a Dell XPS 15 Sandy Bridge - $1049 for i7 2620M, 1920X1080 display, nVidia GT525 Optimus card, HD Camera. For a first time possible mac buyer (me) - is it well justified ?
Have you used OS X before? I pay the Mac premium for two reasons: (1) my laptop is supported by tons of Apple Stores across the country, and (2) OS X is awesome (and since it's Unix-based, I can work in the terminal without a problem). There's also a great reselling market for Macs. If (1) and (2) don't really matter to you, go with the Dell. I'll pay the extra price to get exactly what I want in my computer.
Justifying choice of your primary work system on the basis of even a $1,000 price difference is generally penny wise - pound foolish. I don't think that's a Mac/Win/Linux issue, just common sense when it comes to work tools.
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I don't think the laptop versions of the Core i* have 3 memory channels (neither do the Socket-1155/1156 desktop versions), so 3x4GB of RAM would be a strange/suboptimal configuration. There probably isn't enough physical space in a 13" laptop for more than 2 modules anyway (unless you sacrifice battery or optical drive space). Even soldering them to the motherboard wouldn't save much space - I think all current 4GB…
Yep, those CPUs only support 8GB max. See the Intel Core i7 2620M (the 2.7Ghz part in the high-end 13" model) spec sheet for example: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52231
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Probably because of overlap between it and the MacBook and the MacBook Air? Frankly, I'm amazed they still offer a 13 inch MBP (which is not to say that it isn't a good little machine, but that Apple likes to segment their market clearly) I can't see the prices and options at the moment, but it may be that the MBP is just a couple of hundred bucks more than the top end MacBook, which means that some people might stre…
There is indeed this overlap and clutter on the 13". I think this is because much within the Air is still pretty new stuff for most people: SSD, ditching optical drives. So if people want to pay for performance as they now know it, they'll go for the Pro version. But I doubt there will be a next generation of 13 inch Pros.
I'd rather have space than SSD speed for the associated price. I want to be able to watch DVDs or burn off a quick disk. I don't want to have to step up to a bulky 15" machine just to retain these features.
The Air is not, in my opinion, a really useful machine.
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It's the entry level MBP, it's also by far the most popular model; Apple just wants to make sure that you have something to upgrade _to_ from the the 13" model.
I never plan to upgrade from 13" to 15"/17". For me the main feature of a laptop is the small form factor and the 13" is just really neat in that respect. I have my desktop for when I need more power.