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#3No real information. Marketingy-pictures. This seems like total fluff? I feel like the other HN post about DIY ventilators is a lot more interesting.
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#4Another option might be to figure out ways to adapt existing ventilators to be used by multiple patients. If you find 4 patients with similar tidal volumes and body size, you can grab some Y tubing, attach them to the same ventilator, then set it to 4x the tidal volume and breathe for all of them.
This has been studied before[1] and was done in at least one mass casualty event[2]. The main disadvantage is the risk of spreading germs (though the air return hose is separate from the incoming hose, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem) and the fact that patients sharing a ventilator require more careful monitoring of blood gasses.[3]
I doubt patient outcomes will be as good as having one ventilator per patient, but if it can increase our capacity by 4x overnight it seems worth pursuing.
1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16885402/
2. https://epmonthly.com/article/not-heroes-wear-capes-one-las-...
3. https://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(08)0...
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#5No real information. Marketingy-pictures. This seems like total fluff? I feel like the other HN post about DIY ventilators is a lot more interesting.
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#6All resources should be going towards infection control measures, a quick and highly scalable diagnostic test, and antiviral therapy. In that order.
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#8No real information. Marketingy-pictures. This seems like total fluff? I feel like the other HN post about DIY ventilators is a lot more interesting.
It 'starts somewhere', so I hope it works.
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#9This is madness. You can’t scale up ICU based ventilatory support to keep up with a pandemic. All resources should be going towards infection control measures, a quick and highly scalable diagnostic test, and antiviral therapy. In that order.
I think it's blue sky, too, what they're doing. But what the hell, maybe it'll help. It's not as if that Slack channel would be synthesizing remdesivir by the ton if it weren't doing this, after all.
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#10Wouldn't hospitals, WHO, UN, whoever be able to come together with their capital and just buy out a medical company?
Wouldn't this have to also get past regulations? I'm not too sure if I want a kickstarter for medical equipment. I'd love to see medicines and medical equipment made open and maintainable though!