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Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

#151

Get some conflicting ideas. Two great, short books are The Mystery of Banking by Rothbard (available for free here: https://mises.org/library/mystery-banking ) and Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt (free here: https://fee.org/resources/economics-in-one-lesson/ ). They both conflict quite substantially with the mainstream and might open up a whole new line of inquiry for you.

If you're going to read Hazlitt, do us the favor of reading John Quiggin's recent followup "Economics in Two Lessons":

https://www.amazon.com/Economics-Two-Lessons-Markets-Badly-e...

"Since 1946, Henry Hazlitt’s bestselling Economics in One Lesson has popularized the belief that economics can be boiled down to one simple lesson: market prices represent the true cost of everything. But one-lesson economics tells only half the story. It can explain why markets often work so well, but it can’t explain why they often fail so badly—or what we should do when they stumble. As Nobel Prize–winning economist Paul Samuelson quipped, “When someone preaches ‘Economics in one lesson,’ I advise: Go back for the second lesson.” In Economics in Two Lessons, John Quiggin teaches both lessons, offering a masterful introduction to the key ideas behind the successes—and failures—of free markets."

Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

#153
1.- First, understand that if we are playing head or tails, me having $10 and you having $1,000,000 , who will end up getting the other's money?

2.- Most independents money managers I know, love this book;

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds - by Charles Mackay http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24518

Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

#154

Huge, huge topic. You will have to pick a path through the enormous jungle. The starting point I would recommend is bottom up, through accounting and financial statements. Core knowledge, of both practical and intellectual value. Tons of books here, I particularly like Thomas Ittelson - Financial Statements Accessible, straightforward, friendly. After that, any of the collections of Warren Buffett's Letters to Shareh…

If Graeber's Debt didn't help you build understanding, then I'd respectfully suggest that you weren't trying to build a deep enough understanding.

Debt (the book) is not about our contemporary system (much) - it's an incredible work about the most basic elements of "financial systems" and how debt has shaped our cultures, economies and political systems over thousands of years.

Put differently, perhaps, it's a book about things the lie beneath what is covered in all the books you've mentioned.

Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

#155
Got to put in a plug for a book my mother read shortly before she died last year. The author is insanely smart, the book is really good, the message is incredibly important:

https://marianamazzucato.com/publications/books/value-of-eve...

Blurb:

"Modern economies reward activities that extract value rather than create it. This must change to insure a capitalism that works for us all.

In this scathing indictment of our current global financial system, The Value of Everything rigorously scrutinizes the way in which economic value has been determined and reveals how the difference between value creation and value extraction has become increasingly blurry. Mariana Mazzucato argues that this blurriness allowed certain actors in the economy to portray themselves as value creators, while in reality they were just moving existing value around or, even worse, destroying it.

The book uses case studies–from Silicon Valley to the financial sector to big pharma–to show how the foggy notions of value create confusion between rents and profits, a difference that distorts the measurements of growth and GDP. "

Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

#159
post #45

For learning I strongly recommend against almost all books mentioned in this thread. They don't really teach how financial systems work in the society or the underlying principles. They give you just a viewpoint. Some of them are good read after you know the basics. You need to pick up real college textbook (or online course) and read the parts that interest you and skim other parts. Example: Introduction to Finance:…

I recommend against Mankiw, and to be honest, macroeconomics as a whole. But particularly undergrad macroeconomics. Undergrad macro textbooks are more or less designed to teach you how to work a model, and how to prove theorems about a model. But when all is said and done, macro tends not to go the distance and demonstrate how the model relates to the real world. They also get important details wrong. Most of the wes…

I agree but painting the whole of macro with the same brush as undergrad is a mistake.

Yes, undergrad textbooks are tedious and the content varies between the misleading and wrong (and I definitely agree about learning accounting and how the plumbing works).

But it is also true that past the level of undergrad, it does get more useful. There is still a lot of dubious stuff going on, and you have zealots engaging in the holy war over which useless model is least useless. But there is also some pretty good research that helps you understand the economy.

Re: Ask HN: Book recommendations for understanding financial systems?

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post #64

I have almost 10 years in the finance industry, both buyside and sellside and my take is that, while there are some fundamental principles at play, the world of finance is too messy and complicated for any one book to describe it. An even stronger statement I am willing to make is that no one person correctly and fully understands the financial system. So, once you accept that there is no "correct" answer to how the…

You can say the same about any field. Nobody understands all of physics. Or biology. Or finance. That shouldn't prevent us from giving them clear places to start and giving them overviews.

As an outsider to economics, I feel like there's much more science in physics/biology, and too many factors in economics for people to make accurate prediction at the moment.
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