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It’s so sad that one of the most courageous soldiers in the history of the US military has been treated so horribly by the government.
I’ve said it before but the idea of secret courts trying to coerce people into doing things seems extremely backwards and regressive. Maybe I don’t understand this system but it doesn’t seem to be about getting justice. If there is testimony already given as well it seems doubly wrong, inconsistent and hateful.
This was a normal public federal district court, not the FISA court or the like. Or did you mean the concept of grand juries?
> trying to coerce people into doing things
If people aren't voluntarily complying with orders and subpoenas, what would you suggest be done?
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That doesn’t make sense. Courts are independent (in theory) whereas HR is directly paid by and depending on the company.
I don't necessarily agree with GP, but don't judges get government salaries?
I’ve said it before but the idea of secret courts trying to coerce people into doing things seems extremely backwards and regressive. Maybe I don’t understand this system but it doesn’t seem to be about getting justice. If there is testimony already given as well it seems doubly wrong, inconsistent and hateful.
> "Maybe I don’t understand this system..." sounds like you understand the system pretty well. the US is grounded in a limited federal government and the right to vigorously oppose it (short of, say, revolt) without persecution (see: bill of rights). holding manning in jail for so long was persecutory and unjust.
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That is obscene. I can just about understand contempt of court incarceration for not testifying (though I have extreme reservations on the practice) but such punitive and life-debilitating fines strike me as purely malicious.
I'm sure her representation, who likely are working pro bono, will challenge the fines.
If anyone knows of a (legit) way to donate or make a payment towards her $256,000 in fines, please do share the details.
Why would you want to throw away money paying an illegitimate debt? Donate to a trust that will take care of her instead.
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That doesn’t make sense. Courts are independent (in theory) whereas HR is directly paid by and depending on the company.
> Courts are independent (in theory) In the last couple years the {in practice} part has made this independence completely untrue.
That would explain why the government never loses in court ever, ever, right?
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Courts have as much to do with justice as HR departments. Both exist only to protect the higher-ups. It's not about protecting people; it's about protecting power and those who wield it.
That doesn’t make sense. Courts are independent (in theory) whereas HR is directly paid by and depending on the company.
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Courts have as much to do with justice as HR departments. Both exist only to protect the higher-ups. It's not about protecting people; it's about protecting power and those who wield it.
That doesn’t make sense. Courts are independent (in theory) whereas HR is directly paid by and depending on the company.