Chelsea Manning ordered to be released [pdf]

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Post by pera » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:36 PM UTC

Chelsea Manning ordered to be released [pdf]
courtlistener.com

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Post by autonoshitbox » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:46 PM UTC

This is fantastic news.

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

Did something in particular change so they no longer needed her testimony, or did they finally accept her argument that she already told them what she knew and had nothing more to say?

Edit: Oh I didn't see that the Assange grand jury was dismissed today!

Re: Chelsea Manning ordered to be released [pdf]

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Post by ci5er » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #3

Did something in particular change so they no longer needed her testimony, or did they finally accept her argument that she already told them what she knew and had nothing more to say? Edit: Oh I didn't see that the Assange grand jury was dismissed today!

She attempted suicide and a judge decided that she need not be incarcerated to compel her to be a witness.

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Post by whatshisface » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

Looks like they are still fining Manning $256,000.00.

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Post by gargarplex » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #5

Looks like they are still fining Manning $256,000.00.

Where's the GoFundMe? I have a spare $1 to jump start the effort.

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Post by eatbitseveryday » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

The last page states she will owe $256,000 in fines and the motion to dismiss them was denied. Really?

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Post by jlgaddis » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:54 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #3

Did something in particular change so they no longer needed her testimony, or did they finally accept her argument that she already told them what she knew and had nothing more to say? Edit: Oh I didn't see that the Assange grand jury was dismissed today!

As the order states, the Grand Jury is no more and, as a result, her testimony is no longer needed.

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Post by ci5er » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:55 PM UTC

autonoshitbox wrote: post #2

This is fantastic news.

Why?

I'm not familiar with the facts of the case.

And, I further realize that facts are almost completely immaterial to motivated reasoning about the case, but...

... assuming that you (or someone) is a straight-shooter, why is this "fantastic news"?

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Post by MBCook » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 9:55 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #3

Did something in particular change so they no longer needed her testimony, or did they finally accept her argument that she already told them what she knew and had nothing more to say? Edit: Oh I didn't see that the Assange grand jury was dismissed today!

"the court finds Ms. Manning's appearance before the Grand Jury is no longer needed, in light of which her detention no longer serves any coercive purpose."