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Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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It's been making the argument that Korea's aggressive testing has allowed them greater control over the epidemic.

Of course, there are a variety of other factors at work. Italy is the second "oldest" country in the world after Japan so Coronavirus infections just would be more deadly there. Also a lot of the Korean infections were confined to a single city in Korea (though the Italian infections also had an epicenter).

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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It's been making the argument that Korea's aggressive testing has allowed them greater control over the epidemic. Of course, there are a variety of other factors at work. Italy is the second "oldest" country in the world after Japan so Coronavirus infections just would be more deadly there. Also a lot of the Korean infections were confined to a single city in Korea (though the Italian infections also had an epicenter…

Korea had people actively (hard to believe, I know) making things much worse. But they didn't downplay it for the first two weeks after the virus took hold. With these exponential issues time is everything.

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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It's been making the argument that Korea's aggressive testing has allowed them greater control over the epidemic. Of course, there are a variety of other factors at work. Italy is the second "oldest" country in the world after Japan so Coronavirus infections just would be more deadly there. Also a lot of the Korean infections were confined to a single city in Korea (though the Italian infections also had an epicenter…

Korea had people actively (hard to believe, I know) making things much worse. But they didn't downplay it for the first two weeks after the virus took hold. With these exponential issues time is everything.

Yup, Korea's Patient #31 made things a lot worse, or else they would be doing much better right now.

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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It's been making the argument that Korea's aggressive testing has allowed them greater control over the epidemic. Of course, there are a variety of other factors at work. Italy is the second "oldest" country in the world after Japan so Coronavirus infections just would be more deadly there. Also a lot of the Korean infections were confined to a single city in Korea (though the Italian infections also had an epicenter…

If Italy is the second oldest country in the world after Japan, how do they have 800 deaths compared to 16 in Japan? Something about those numbers seems off. Is it because Japan's elderly population tend to live in rural areas compared to Italy's or something else societally related?

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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Just curious, does anybody know how did Japan manage to do so well, inspite of a very old population. Also what does HN think is the better place to be right now? A mega city or a small village?

My guess is large city: possibly better health services, possibly higher priority if supply lines are affected. I don't think population is a big factor as long as you isolate yourself, since even in a small village, if someone is infected, it'll eventually get to you if you're exposed. Not an educated guess though.

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Korea had people actively (hard to believe, I know) making things much worse. But they didn't downplay it for the first two weeks after the virus took hold. With these exponential issues time is everything.

Yup, Korea's Patient #31 made things a lot worse, or else they would be doing much better right now.

oh now I am .curious what that person did?

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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S. Korea is very interconnected as a society. Technology does have a role but people are generally receptive of personal information being collected and used. For example, in order to hand out the proper number of masks, they have APIs which allows a database to inventory pharmacy mask handouts. In the face of a crisis, are Koreans forfeiting their privacy or are they trying to curb a bad situation? Americans would definitely not tolerate any info sharing and now there are strict laws against information collection.

Re: Italy and South Korea virus outbreaks reveal disparity in deaths and tactics

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Italy has an older population, hence more susceptible to deaths and spreading of the virus:

- Average age of death due to Coronavirus in Italy is 82 [1]

- In Italy, 3.65% of the population is 80 or older [2].

- In Korea, 1.75% of the population is 80 or older [3]

[1] https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/covid-19...

[2] https://www.populationpyramid.net/italy/2019/

[3] https://www.populationpyramid.net/republic-of-korea/2019/

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