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Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#111

Why would I follow someone with only 73 followers in the first place? I wish twitter can let me choose to filter out any information from accounts with less than 10000 followers, with exception of my own followings.

> Why would I follow someone with only 73 followers in the first place?

Because not all your friends are rich famous celebrities? (Or maybe they are, I don't know you, I'm just spitballing here..)

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

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Not sure if "completely false" is appropriate. There was some Russian activity. The scale of which appears somewhat underwhelming: > Through our supplemental analysis, we have identified 13,512 additional accounts, for a total of 50,258 automated accounts that we identified as Russian-linked and Tweeting election-related content during the election period, representing approximately two one-hundredths of a percent (0…

>Through our supplemental analysis, we have identified 13,512 additional accounts, for a total of 50,258 automated accounts that we identified as Russian-linked and Tweeting election-related content during the election period, representing approximately two one-hundredths of a percent (0.016%) of the total accounts on Twitter at the time. The comparison of "50,258 automated accounts that we identified as Russian-link…

In comparison, Mike Bloomberg totally failed to take over a US presidential primary, and he spent almost half a billion dollars.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#113

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It's a big topic and I am reluctant to invest a great deal of time trying to persuade a new arrival. Try following the links in this article for an overview of recent research. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-twitter-bots-...

New account, seemingly randomly generated username, only ever posts in defense of botting. Seems like we need a "Signs you're arguing with a fake hnews account" article.

I've been on HN for 13 years, I just don't care for the voting system.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#114
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It's insane to demand somebody should be given the authority to determine what is disinformation and what is not. That is a totalitarian approach. Those few Twitter bots don't hurt anybody, because nobody listens to them anyway. And if people do listen to them, they will eventually catch on and their information immune system will have been strengthened.

Do you believe the same thing about email spam detection? Various authorities decide on the validity of email and webspam.

If people pick companies to do filtering for them, it is their choice. GMail is causing some problems. In general, most people opt to have suspicious mail sorted into a Spam folder, not deleted completely.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#115

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That article says 50,000 accounts were "linked to Russia". Do you know who linked them to Russia and by what criteria? They weren't actually controlled by the Russian government because the article cites that figure at only 3,000. The hysteria over Russia as an excuse to ignore the concerns of Americans who support populist positions is pretty transparent at this point.

>The hysteria over Russia as an excuse to ignore the concerns of Americans who support populist positions is pretty transparent at this point. You're calling it "hysteria" to dismiss facts you don't like. "The Russian Hoax!", where have I heard that before? But, to your second point, I completely agree that many on the left want to pretend it was _mostly_ because of foreign interference. I tend to think that had a pr…

Not to be too pedantic, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think "The Russian Hoax" more specifically refers to the beliefs/claims by some that Trump or his campaign was colluding with Russia directly to interfere with the election rather than simply the belief/claim/fact that Russia (or Russians) interfered in the election of their own volition.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#116

I've been writing about this for years but it's insane to me that Twitter is not stopping this. They are contributing both to group psychosis and the destruction of democracy through the spread of disinformation.

But they're making money from it. And that's all they (and their shareholders) care about. Same reason FakeBook won't ban false political advertising on their platform even though it's really obvious it's destructive to society.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#117

I've been writing about this for years but it's insane to me that Twitter is not stopping this. They are contributing both to group psychosis and the destruction of democracy through the spread of disinformation.

And how exactly do you propose to stop this on scale? The problem is harder than it looks.

I wouldn't begin to claim I have a solution, but I think there's steps Twitter can take to show they are acting in good faith. I believe often times, Twitter flags accounts for suspicious activity - for accounts to be reactivated, a phone number has to be provided. If Twitter wanted to, are they not capable of deploying an algorithm that serves as a dragnet to catch accounts that tick off multiple check-boxes for bot activity and flag them? This would not mean that the account would immediately be banned or shadow-banned, but they could provide some kind of visual indicator to other users that the account in question has recently been flagged for bot-like activity (on the account's comments, retweets, etc.).

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#118

I've been writing about this for years but it's insane to me that Twitter is not stopping this. They are contributing both to group psychosis and the destruction of democracy through the spread of disinformation.

Geoff Goldberg has been analyzing and writing about this a lot[0], he is worth following on Medium, ironically Twitter suspending him from Twitter [1]. [0] https://medium.com/@geoffgolberg [1] https://medium.com/@geoffgolberg/your-twitter-account-has-be...

He was harassing users over his dubious research. Suspecting someone to be a "bot" doesn't justify demeaning and dehumanizing these people.

Re: Signs you're following a fake Twitter account

#119
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Given the pressure that Elliott is putting on Dorsey to aggressively grow Twitter, I don't think it is likely that things will improve. https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/9/21171482/twitter-jack-do...

They got 3 seats on the board and agreed to create a committee literally to search for Dorsey's successor. It's far too late for Dorsey. Realistically they're just letting him go out on his own terms at this point. In a few months Dorsey will announce that he's stepping down because he wants to focus his attention on his other job and that'll be that.

Do you have a source for the claim that this committee is searching for Dorsey's successor? I found this from the WSJ about three days ago, but the gist of it seems to be that two new board members were added, they're searching for a 'new independent director' and a deal was struck that allowed Dorsey to maintain his position.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter-elliott-strike-truce-th...

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