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Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

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Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#41

"inject 1.5t" by that do they mean a 1.5t panic bailout for wall street? how can we find 1.5t in the budget but no money for universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, ubi etc. The markets wouldn't be so important if there were a safety net.

Often this type of action is not the government spending that level of money with nothing in return. Generally it is buying an asset it intends to sell later (often at a profit).

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#42

"inject 1.5t" by that do they mean a 1.5t panic bailout for wall street? how can we find 1.5t in the budget but no money for universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, ubi etc. The markets wouldn't be so important if there were a safety net.

The Federal Reserve is not a government entity and has nothing to do with the budget, which is set by the US congress.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#43
post #38

Yet another bailout for wall street. Why couldn't these investors stop buying starbucks every day and save up like the rest of us?

This is not a wall Street bail out. This is a main Street bail out. Every American's life savings is in the stock market... Don't conflate the two please.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#44
post #39

"inject 1.5t" by that do they mean a 1.5t panic bailout for wall street? how can we find 1.5t in the budget but no money for universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, ubi etc. The markets wouldn't be so important if there were a safety net.

Not all dollars are created equally

Yea, dollars put into student loan forgiveness actually pay themselves off many times over due to the high velocity of cash in the hands in young people - money injected into the market has a comparatively low velocity and tends to just get exported overseas.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#45
I honestly don't think this is going to work. Markets and investors are notoriously greedy and have a very short memory. This infusion will lift the market for a day (if at all) and institutions will make money and the next day the news cycle will take over and the selling will continue. We are in the early phases of negative news so not sure effective this will be.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#46

That smells a lot like panic move and I am not sure it will move the needle much. Economy will severly shrink no matter what Fed do.

The goal is "to prevent ominous trading conditions from creating a sharper economic contraction", according to the article. Whether $1.5T is sufficient to accomplish this goal obviously remains to be seen. My guess (but don't bet your retirement portfolio on it) is that the economy will dip for 3-6 months, then as the virus exsanguinates, it will rebound.

There's massive efforts in several countries to develop or adapt vaccines to covid-19: Israel, Maryland, and Texas companies all have candidates ready for human testing, or about to be ready. It's likely that in about six months there will be one or more vaccines well into human testing or perhaps even fast-tracked into the market, at least for vulnerable populations, and the panic will die down.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

#47
Reminds me of the legends of the Plunge Protection Team (PPT)[0]. A group of people who report directly to the POTUS who're attributed responsibility by pro traders to do large buy orders when the markets are dropping sharply.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/plunge-protection-team....

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

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post #43
post #38

Yet another bailout for wall street. Why couldn't these investors stop buying starbucks every day and save up like the rest of us?

This is not a wall Street bail out. This is a main Street bail out. Every American's life savings is in the stock market... Don't conflate the two please.

Nope, sorry - this is literally an injection of cash into Wall Street. Political spin can do massively crazy things but this particular injection is specifically going straight into Wall Street - saying otherwise is extremely disingenuous.

Re: Fed to inject $1.5T to prevent ‘unusual disruptions’ in markets

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post #41

"inject 1.5t" by that do they mean a 1.5t panic bailout for wall street? how can we find 1.5t in the budget but no money for universal healthcare, student loan forgiveness, ubi etc. The markets wouldn't be so important if there were a safety net.

Often this type of action is not the government spending that level of money with nothing in return. Generally it is buying an asset it intends to sell later (often at a profit).

For sure. People still get up in arms about the 2008 bank bailout without realizing that it ended up resulting in a $121B profit to the government: https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
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