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US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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Realistically there is no "US" any more. Fauci is speaking for the NIAID, and arguably for the scientific community within the CDC/NIH/HHS. The white house certainly wouldn't be on board with this message, but as we saw last night even the white house is inconsistent with its own policies in important ways. But yes: we messed up. We weren't prepared to begin with, we rolled back a bunch of existing preparedness work,…

Absolutely. Was talking with a friend who was confused about why schools in remote areas are being shut down - testing needs to be done just so people realize that it's not just Washington or New York, this is pretty much everywhere or imminently about to be everywhere in the United States.

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Sounds like he's being too honest. Expect him to be replaced imminently. Seriously, how are we so bad at this? We knew it was coming and South Korea has been testing 10k/day since Feb, so it's clearly doable. We've done <10k total! What in the world is going on with the tests?

>What in the world is going on with the tests? It appears the main driver has been lack of chemicals and in the beginning, the cdc required tests to be sent to them. The states can now test on their own. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/co...

There was a technical issue, and a policy issue.

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Admitting and identifying the problem is the first step. The Cleveland Clinic just came out with an 8 hour test and hopefully this will help the situation if they share the process. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/co...

There is nothing secret about RNA testing. Any decent lab can synthetise its own markers from a file downloaded from internet. It is like genetic research is illegal in US or what.

Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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post #11
post #4

Realistically there is no "US" any more. Fauci is speaking for the NIAID, and arguably for the scientific community within the CDC/NIH/HHS. The white house certainly wouldn't be on board with this message, but as we saw last night even the white house is inconsistent with its own policies in important ways. But yes: we messed up. We weren't prepared to begin with, we rolled back a bunch of existing preparedness work,…

Absolutely. Was talking with a friend who was confused about why schools in remote areas are being shut down - testing needs to be done just so people realize that it's not just Washington or New York, this is pretty much everywhere or imminently about to be everywhere in the United States.

Anyone want guess at how difficult it is to ramp up testing to a population of 320 million for a disease that didn't exist 4 months ago?

Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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post #5

Admitting and identifying the problem is the first step. The Cleveland Clinic just came out with an 8 hour test and hopefully this will help the situation if they share the process. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/co...

There is nothing secret about RNA testing. Any decent lab can synthetise its own markers from a file downloaded from internet. It is like genetic research is illegal in US or what.

Offering a diagnostic test without FDA approval is illegal, for good reason (there would be companies far worse than Theranos) but clearly in an emergency regulators need to adapt.

Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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It’s so hard to trust the media to report on anything without trying to inflame the “orange man bad” narrative. In Australia almost no one with some or most of the symptoms is being tested. General Practitioners are basically telling people to fuck off, self isolate and call the hospital if symptoms worsen. https://apple.news/ASvoRONOWS9ijWX4RrGmiTQ “Currently we are not testing everyone, and whilst this may change i…

>In Australia almost no one with some or most of the symptoms is being tested. General Practitioners are basically telling people to fuck off, self isolate and call the hospital if symptoms worsen. This is simply false: >Here, testing is free and widely available, thanks to early and coordinated planning for a pandemic. On Thursday, Mr. Hanks said he and his wife had seen the efforts firsthand, as they tested positiv…

It's not true for europe either. People are not expexted to go to GP or the hospital for tests. Testing is done in people's homes.

Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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post #4

Realistically there is no "US" any more. Fauci is speaking for the NIAID, and arguably for the scientific community within the CDC/NIH/HHS. The white house certainly wouldn't be on board with this message, but as we saw last night even the white house is inconsistent with its own policies in important ways. But yes: we messed up. We weren't prepared to begin with, we rolled back a bunch of existing preparedness work,…

The white house said that testing is going "really smooth" and all travelers are being tested two hours ago on live TV, both are lies, obviously the white house is not on board with Fauci's message.

Re: US admits 'failing' on testing, says Fauci

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It’s so hard to trust the media to report on anything without trying to inflame the “orange man bad” narrative. In Australia almost no one with some or most of the symptoms is being tested. General Practitioners are basically telling people to fuck off, self isolate and call the hospital if symptoms worsen. https://apple.news/ASvoRONOWS9ijWX4RrGmiTQ “Currently we are not testing everyone, and whilst this may change i…

>In Australia almost no one with some or most of the symptoms is being tested. General Practitioners are basically telling people to fuck off, self isolate and call the hospital if symptoms worsen. This is simply false: >Here, testing is free and widely available, thanks to early and coordinated planning for a pandemic. On Thursday, Mr. Hanks said he and his wife had seen the efforts firsthand, as they tested positiv…

It’s not false because I went through this myself yesterday. Was told over the phone “don’t come in, its probably a common cold, stay at home and if symptoms worsen called the health hotline”

Community forums are full others reporting similar stories

https://apple.news/ASvoRONOWS9ijWX4RrGmiTQ

“Currently we are not testing everyone, and whilst this may change in the future, at the moment this isn’t feasible. The pressure on labs would be mammoth and the yield is likely low,”

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