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U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

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Post by squiggleblaz »

hrasyid wrote: post #576
gip wrote: post #482

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> Overall, social distancing is probably easier for Americans because our way of life already involves a good deal of social distance to begin with. While that's true, behavior trumps lifestyle I think. I had a dentist appointment scheduled for this morning in San Francisco. I called my dentist office and explained that my wife has some mild-flu symptoms and asked if we should reschedule. They said that's since I don…

You think that should be cancelled?

omg yes! The dentist's going to stick their face right in his! after having stuck their face right into a bunch of other patients! and then they'll stick their face into a few more patients! It sounds like the perfect breeding ground. Even if I wasn't sick, I'd want to cancel for that alone!

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Post by tyleo »

stoicShell wrote: post #753
SiempreViernes wrote: post #731

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Yeah, you need a influenza epidemic expert, all the rests are just repeating second-hand information.

Joe Rogan has had such an ad hoc expert just this week, highly recommended. A sobering cold and factual shower.

Agreed, it’s amazing the range of guests Joe Rogan has on his show. Admittedly some are more witch doctors than actual doctors but his recent conversation with Michael Osterholm was the real deal.

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Post by squiggleblaz »

saiya-jin wrote: post #723
Jommi wrote: post #503

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I've lived in both, and you're missing how large the difference is. Not to mention you seem to be missing the point. What the OP was saying is that americans don't eat out that much, is a very heavily home-oriented society - thats why the OP mentioned take out and delivery - not going out for lunch. And yes people out of cities in nearly all countries have big backyards, but you are missing the people have big back y…

Guys, you are missing the point - these stereotypes, however true they might have been (or not), are over currently for Europe. Restaurants are empty or closed, people limit their social interaction and overall exposure to minimum. It doesn't matter much if we speak about Sweden or Italy or anything in between. What will happen or won't in US or Europe is not anymore dependent on these behaviors.

Lol. I'm in Germany. And lol, just lol. No one here is doing jack.

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Post by sanguy »

The UK exemption is logical. The UK immigration systems are linked and accessible by the US. This is why the trusted-traveller program could be extended to cover the UK with an additional registration.

So the US immigration side knows all details of people connecting via the UK to the US so their pre-screening is effective. This includes how they got to the UK.

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Post by rendall »

raxxorrax wrote: post #717
thyselius wrote: post #648

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I'm trying to find more information about this, as I'm a tourist visiting the US flying back on Sunday. Does anyone know how this will play out, will they keep flying FROM the US to Europe?

The levenshtein distance between tourist and terrorist is only 4, so my prognosis looks bleak. But fun aside, I think you are still fine. To my knowledge no flights from the US seem to be cancelled so far. If they really do cancel flights, you could try to use another route trough another EU country. But I think that is still unlikely to be required. That might change though, but probably not until Sunday.

"The levenshtein distance between tourist and terrorist is only 4..."

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. Maybe people don't know what a levenshtein distance is?

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Post by rendall »

hectormalot wrote: post #654
Scoundreller wrote: post #613

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And for Schengen, you'll have a stamp in and out (assuming 1 passport).

No Schengen stamps if you already live in the Schengen area. Unless there is data sharing the US gov wouldn’t be able to see it from a passport. I suppose it will be another question on the form. Next to ‘I am not a terrorist’

As a side-note: I saw the forms that my great grandparents had to fill out when entering the US from Europe back in 1905 or thereabouts. There was a checkbox for "anarchist"

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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Post by vogatt »

jaclaz wrote: post #736
hcknwscommenter wrote: post #603

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The ridiculous part of this whole travel ban 3.0 is that it is totally unnecessary. If the U.S. had proper testing infrastructure, we could test every single person arriving from abroad and make them wait the 4 hours required to get a read. S. Korea has that type of testing infrastructure. We invented the darn technology. There are no excuses for the deplorable, laughable, incompetent, disgraceful (I could go on) rol…

Then, the first positive result that you get should mean that the whole plane is at risk, after all we are talking of people that have been jammed together on the plane for some 8 hours (on the same recirculating air) and then kept (possibly also jammed together) for another 5-6 hours at the airport to wait for the results, that is - from what I can understand of the way the virus is transmitted - the perfect environ…

This (the recirculation part) is likely less tragic than it seems.

Air recilculated on the airplane goes through a HEPA filter and the whole air is exchanged every 3 minutes. HEPA filters are able to catch the virus as far as I know.

source: https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/630300-coved-19-recircul...

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himalayan_yak wrote: post #604

Trying hard not to be political. But POTUS speech seems to make things lot worse than better along anything. The efficacy of this travel ban is questionable (given all these exceptions such as one for UK. Can people coming from other parts just have a layover in UK and be get permission to enter the US?). But lets give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they did so in good faith. It is what's not in the sp…

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Post by rmsaksida »

raxxorrax wrote: post #717
thyselius wrote: post #648

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to find more information about this, as I'm a tourist visiting the US flying back on Sunday. Does anyone know how this will play out, will they keep flying FROM the US to Europe?

The levenshtein distance between tourist and terrorist is only 4, so my prognosis looks bleak. But fun aside, I think you are still fine. To my knowledge no flights from the US seem to be cancelled so far. If they really do cancel flights, you could try to use another route trough another EU country. But I think that is still unlikely to be required. That might change though, but probably not until Sunday.

> The levenshtein distance between tourist and terrorist is only 4, so my prognosis looks bleak.

The distance in speech is not that far off either, I've found. When I visited the US for the first time, the border agent asked me what I was there for. Tourism, I said. My English pronunciation not being clear enough, he said "excuse me? Can you say that again? TERRORISM?". After that I learned to just say "vacation".

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Post by dang »

jackson1way wrote: post #476

Just de-boarded and re-boarded an aircraft going to Europe from NY because of this „small“ missing „detail“ in the initial announcement. 4h delay and the people who de-boarded the plane initially, are not re-boarding because they probably left the airport by now, not knowing they had wrong information. Ouch.

(This subthread was originally in reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22552902)
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