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Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
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Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#42Meta-question: Will this termination inspire the same anti-"proprietary walled garden" rhetoric as Apple's imposition of new terms for subscription sales? If not, why not?
You know, some people view their phone in an intimate, personal way - not much different from their car - so the idea that Apple feel it is their phone and not your phone is rather insulting. Such expectations don't exist when interacting with services.
I've taken two jailbroken iphones into Apple for warrantee work, with Cydia and MyWi sitting there plain as day. I've never had them tell me I couldn't do that to their phone.
I think people are letting their feelings about the App Store color everything about Apple. Ironically, the people with the strongest feelings are the people who least have to put up with it, since they understand how to get around it, whether that be jailbreaking and using Cydia for apps, using web applications, or going with Android.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, the system that shut him down is automated and triggers 99.9% of the time on spam accounts, and the lockout is a totally sensible default.
Then perhaps these kinds of decisions should not be taken by machines.
The email may well have been automatically-generated. Most people whose accounts are suspended have a very hard time getting in touch with a real person even when they follow instructions on the Facebook site.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#44Here's a warning to you. Don't develop for Facebook. They essentially are a tyranny, you can't really take them to court for blocking you.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#45This started to interfere with facebook's own stalking experience so they shut it down. Don't need to be a genius to figure out that out.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
If not, I suspect it's that most people already understand that a hosted service, like Facebook, is inherently a walled garden, and hence it's not surprising when something like this happens. Apple's control over what you can and can't do with hardware and software that you own is a little more alarming perhaps?
Sorry, I meant to upvote. Fat iPhone thumb.
I think this phenomenon needs a word. How about iThumb?
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#47And has reached 3.6 million users overnight. That's incredible! I bet the developer is kicking himself for not monetizing with ads right away, that's a lot of traffic and a lot of money.
That's 3.6 million Facebook users in the Breakup Notifier database , not 3.6 million users of Breakup Notifier. Since the app pulls in all your Facebook friends, and people generally have a few hundred friends, I suspect the number of users of Breakup Notifier is in the tens of thousands.
Though people don't usually have unique friend sets--if a group of 10 people all know eachother and are friends on Facebook that's just 10 users.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#48Here's a warning to you. Don't develop for Facebook. They essentially are a tyranny, you can't really take them to court for blocking you.
In my more idealistic days, I would have agreed with you. However, if you want to be a pragmatic entrepreneur, you shouldn't lock yourself out of a huge audience like that. It's the equivalent of saying "don't build apps for Windows, they essentially are a tyranny". Well, yes, Microsoft can be a bit tyrannical; however, that's the platform where the money is/was.
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#49And has reached 3.6 million users overnight. That's incredible! I bet the developer is kicking himself for not monetizing with ads right away, that's a lot of traffic and a lot of money.
That's 3.6 million Facebook users in the Breakup Notifier database , not 3.6 million users of Breakup Notifier. Since the app pulls in all your Facebook friends, and people generally have a few hundred friends, I suspect the number of users of Breakup Notifier is in the tens of thousands.
It's a lot higher than 10,000 [1].
[1] - Dan told me.
EDIT: (the parent comment once said 10,000, now changed.)
Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
My opinion is that this app does not violate the behavior that FB wants to dissuade. It sends an email that provides information that is already being provided by the user, it does not track or determine information that is otherwise not available.
Is the info being provided by the user, or is the app detecting info that is no longer being provided by the user, i.e. lack of friend status is not the same as a notification that you are no longer friends. If the deal is with regard to the former, I can easily imagine that FB doesn't tell you these things intentionally. If they leave it as a silent disconnect, they can construct their TOU to prohibit detecting conn…
I'd speculate that extracting more information here is a gray area in general but it should be clear that this would be the "blackest part" of the gray - ie, potential stalking/exploitation material.
Facebook lets people post where they are when. An app that determines when someone isn't home or when someone is alone in a dangerous area would still be undesirable.
Note also - Friend doesn't let someone explicit reject a friend request and it doesn't let people "unlike". This may seem dictatorial but in many ways it's "good moderation/curation of the space". It's just as logical for Facebook to remove apps that want to add "the forgotten" "reject button"/"unlike button".