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Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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And has reached 3.6 million users overnight. That's incredible! I bet the developer is kicking himself for not monetizing with ads right away, that's a lot of traffic and a lot of money.

That's 3.6 million Facebook users in the Breakup Notifier database, not 3.6 million users of Breakup Notifier.

Since the app pulls in all your Facebook friends, and people generally have a few hundred friends, I suspect the number of users of Breakup Notifier is in the tens of thousands.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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Meta-question: Will this termination inspire the same anti-"proprietary walled garden" rhetoric as Apple's imposition of new terms for subscription sales? If not, why not?

No. I don't own facebook's hardware. Apple's terms for their app store wouldn't be so onerous if there was another legal/good way to install software on your own device.

You're welcome to jailbreak your iPhone and install whatever you want on it. It's perfectly legal, but Apple is not under an obligation to support it, or keep the security holes that allow it in place, or even make it easy for you.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disabling his account is either a display of creepy dictatorial power or an indication of incompetence and lack of common sense.

Or, the system that shut him down is automated and triggers 99.9% of the time on spam accounts, and the lockout is a totally sensible default.

Then perhaps these kinds of decisions should not be taken by machines.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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And has reached 3.6 million users overnight. That's incredible! I bet the developer is kicking himself for not monetizing with ads right away, that's a lot of traffic and a lot of money.

As appealing as 3.6M users sounds, "reach" apps like this often make really bad money. He would've made no more than $500 if he was doing well. He was capturing emails, so that had long term potential, but he wouldn't have become rich from three days of FB user impressions.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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Meta-question: Will this termination inspire the same anti-"proprietary walled garden" rhetoric as Apple's imposition of new terms for subscription sales? If not, why not?

No. I don't own facebook's hardware. Apple's terms for their app store wouldn't be so onerous if there was another legal/good way to install software on your own device.

Jailbreaking is entirely legal. And jailbroken phones allow for the installation of arbitrary software. So really, iOS Terms are not as big of a deal as you make them out to be then?

I think that the legality of the task is important, but it's also pretty critical how supported that task is. While it's legal to jailbreak, it's also (probably? unknown) legal for Apple to accidentally brick your phone during updates.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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"Facebook has also, inexplicably, disabled his personal account." Sure they can try and justify blocking the application by saying it made 'excessive API calls', but how do they justify disabling his personal account?

For this reason I think its fairly obvious that his personal account and the app were pulled for something more than excessive API calls.

I think a more reasonable interpretation is the app was pulled for being spammy and the developer of the app was pulled for being a spammer. I think the implication that there is something sinister in this is reaching.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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Meta-question: Will this termination inspire the same anti-"proprietary walled garden" rhetoric as Apple's imposition of new terms for subscription sales? If not, why not?

No. I don't own facebook's hardware. Apple's terms for their app store wouldn't be so onerous if there was another legal/good way to install software on your own device.

If Microsoft had built a closed yet successful ecosystem like the iphone it would be sued into oblivion by the EU.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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Meta-question: Will this termination inspire the same anti-"proprietary walled garden" rhetoric as Apple's imposition of new terms for subscription sales? If not, why not?

No. I don't own facebook's hardware. Apple's terms for their app store wouldn't be so onerous if there was another legal/good way to install software on your own device.

If Microsoft had built a closed yet successful ecosystem like the iphone it would be sued into oblivion by the EU.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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post #27
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disabling his account is either a display of creepy dictatorial power or an indication of incompetence and lack of common sense.

Or, the system that shut him down is automated and triggers 99.9% of the time on spam accounts, and the lockout is a totally sensible default.

An automated system that can't distinguish between a very successful application and a spammer doesn't sound particularly sensible to me.

Re: Breakup Notifier Shut Down By Facebook

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"Facebook has also, inexplicably, disabled his personal account." Sure they can try and justify blocking the application by saying it made 'excessive API calls', but how do they justify disabling his personal account?

My guess is that the system that does this is completely automated. The number of API calls his app was making set off a flag for spam/spammer and his account was disabled accordingly. Until he contacted them I wonder if any human was even aware that his app had been blocked. The interesting question here is how Facebook will respond in this instance.

I'm curious how they'll respond too.

This just gives me the impression that Facebook doesn't approve of successful (indie) applications built on their API.

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