Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
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Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
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Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#2I appreciate they have a whole section on disadvantages, but this stands out to me: "All-remote companies should consider meetings as a last resort, instead relying on asynchronous collaboration tools[...]"
To me, this implies a further disadvantage: extremely high latency when compared with in-person collaboration. That can be fine for some things. But there's all sorts of work where I really value live discussion.
I know that some remote-first companies tend to group related work by timezone, so that teams can be both distributed and low latency. I take it Gitlab isn't one of those?
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#3I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company.
What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#4I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
if we apply the same thinking to other industries, the prices of goods would skyrocket.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#5I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
> If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same?
Why is that? I don’t necessarily disagree with your statement. But why would it be fair for someone of equal skill to be able to afford less food and healthcare just because they live in a place with higher prices and higher taxes?
Should everybody be incentivized to relocate to a developing country or tax haven because of the internet and your equality rule?
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#6I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
if we apply the same thinking to other industries, the prices of goods would skyrocket.
Perhaps they should. Our current economy of cheap, disposable goods is only possible because of the (relative) exploitation of the poor.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#7I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
> If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same? Why is that? I don’t necessarily disagree with your statement. But why would it be fair for someone of equal skill to be able to afford less food and healthcare just because they live in a place with higher prices and higher taxes? Should everybody be incentivized to relocate to a developing country or tax haven because of the internet and your equality rule…
Because when I work I produce a product for my employer. My employer sells that product at the same price regardless of where it was produced.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#8I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
That assumes that all money is of equal value. Which on one level it is, but on another level, the relative purchasing power in different geographic areas is a real thing. Normalising based on that means that in effect you're paying people for the same relative quality of life, rather than same absolute value, which can be very different relatively.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same? Why is that? I don’t necessarily disagree with your statement. But why would it be fair for someone of equal skill to be able to afford less food and healthcare just because they live in a place with higher prices and higher taxes? Should everybody be incentivized to relocate to a developing country or tax haven because of the internet and your equality rule…
Because when I work I produce a product for my employer. My employer sells that product at the same price regardless of where it was produced.
This is an amazing response.
It's not true for every industry (e.g. Games), but definitely true for most.
In Gitlab's case it's 100% true.
Re: Gitlab's Guide to All-Remote
#10I find it interesting how they achieve this and it also gives people in remote places the ability to work for such a company. What I don't agree with is the pay scale they use based on your location. If you have the same skills, you should be paid the same.
The regional coefficients they use to set salary are a real turn off. https://about.gitlab.com/salary/data.json