U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days

Post by advaita » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

scottLobster wrote: post #6

cj wrote: post #4

I see in some places it says this includes cargo / shipping. Is that true?

Watched the broadcast live, yes it includes cargo shipments. Something tells me the markets are going to react badly to that one

Post by orange_fritter » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:15 AM UTC

bratawurst wrote: post #308

This is insane. I haven’t been really scared of the pandemic yet, but if this is the response, now, I’m terrified. Changing the number of infected people entering the community does nothing when we already have transmission happening within the community at some fixed rate which is determined by the community . “Flattening the curve” of an exponential function means changing the rate of growth, not the fucking consta…

Post by refurb » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:16 AM UTC

guerrilla wrote: post #237

dcolkitt wrote: post #114

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On the other hand, Americans have much larger and more comfortable homes than Europeans. Americans have big garages to stockpile supplies, which means less trips to the store. Very few people use public transportation regularly. Most people have private back yards. Many more meals are take-out or drive-thru. More Americans use e-commerce for shopping than Europeans. In Europe by contrast, much more of life revolves a…

It sounds like you've never been outside of a city in Europe and never been to a city in the US? Urban population in the EU in 2018 is 76% while 82% for the same year in the US according to The World Bank.

Post by seanmcdirmid » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:16 AM UTC

jschwartzi wrote: post #361

URSpider94 wrote: post #326

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It IS happening in Italy, and it definitely happened in China. The difference is that Japan, South Korea and Singapore have much more powerful nationwide governments. This allowed them to put infection controls in place much earlier than we have in the USA. It remains to be seen where we top out, numbers-wise, vs. hospital capacity.

Here in Washington Governor Inslee declared a State of Emergency, which gives him the power to, among other things, mobilize the National Guard and State militias to establish field hospitals. This is essentially the same reaction China had with regard to building temporary hospitals, but at the state level instead of the federal level. We don't need federal powers, just competent state leadership.

Post by toyg » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:17 AM UTC

scarmig wrote: post #292

zbraniecki wrote: post #67

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Ugh, USA is at the moment likely on level with Europe. The idea that this will prevent "infected people streaming into USA" is uninformed. This step limits transfer both ways, between two regions that both have similar level of infection spread. It may help both sides contain the virus, but it won't limit the amount of infected people in the USA on its own. Please, be careful about the language you use, the way you w…

> Ugh, USA is at the moment likely on level with Europe. Probably not true, as we don't have 1000 deaths yet. Though, give it two weeks, and we'll easily have caught up (to where Europe is today).